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Haiti
January 29, 2010
11:24 pm PDT
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**slaps palm to forehead**

I'm speechless.

So was I, but really, I am at most of the stuff that comes out of her mouth.

After the disgusted look I gave her, she hasn't said a word to me about it since.

Unfortunately, because she is technically my boss, I couldn't outright say to her what first came to my mind.

Imagine there's no heaven, it's easy if you try.



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That which is unchallenged and exercised as habit rapidly becomes ritual.

When this occurs, dissent becomes an object of surprise, if not resentment.



B. Carmon Hardy
January 30, 2010
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good gods! someone who makes robertson seem compassionate! i didn't think anyone could have expressed their feelings about the quake victims in haiti with more distain for the human condition but this guy manages to out disgust the disgusting…….i am praying that he has a very low sperm count.

Former NBA player Paul Shirley has a lot to say, regarding whether he will donate any money to the people of Haiti since the Jan. 12th earthquake.

According to the NY Daily News, Shirley blogged on flipcollective.com:

"I haven't donated a cent to the Haitian relief effort. And I probably will not. I haven't donated to the Haitian relief effort for the same reason that I don't give money to homeless men on the street. Based on past experiences, I don't think the guy with the sign that reads "Need You're Help" is going to do anything constructive with the dollar I might give him. If I use history as my guide, I don't think the people of Haiti will do much with my money either.

… Shouldn't much of the responsibility for the disaster lie with the victims of that disaster?"

During his brief stint as a basketball player--he only played 18 games--Shirley played with the Atlanta Hawks, Chicago Bulls and Pheonix Suns. He used to spend part of his time blogging for ESPN, up until he blogged these comments yesterday:

"Shouldn't there be some discourse on how the millions of dollars that are being poured into Haiti will be spent? And at least a slight reprimand for the conditions prior to the earthquake? Some kind of inquisition? Something like this?:

Dear Haitians –

First of all, kudos on developing the poorest country in the Western Hemisphere. Your commitment to human rights, infrastructure, and birth control should be applauded.

As we prepare to assist you in this difficult time, a polite request: If it's possible, could you not re-build your island home in the image of its predecessor? Could you not resort to the creation of flimsy shanty- and shack-towns? And could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?

Sincerely,

The Rest of the World

ESPN had this to say:

"The views he expressed on another site of course do not at all reflect our company's views on the Haiti relief efforts. He will no longer contribute to ESPN."

"We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of dreams." - Willy Wonka (Gene Wilder)




"God is a kid with an ant farm." Constantine
January 30, 2010
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"Some kind of inquisition"???

WTH?

Yea, because the last one went so well for history.

Sheesh.

To each their own, but don't be a d*ck about it, and for FSM's sake, keep your d*mn mouth shut!

Imagine there's no heaven, it's easy if you try.



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That which is unchallenged and exercised as habit rapidly becomes ritual.

When this occurs, dissent becomes an object of surprise, if not resentment.



B. Carmon Hardy
January 30, 2010
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personally, born, if i was anywhere near this twonk i'd stuff a basketball in his mouth to save the world from sickening idiocy such as his.

"We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of dreams." - Willy Wonka (Gene Wilder)




"God is a kid with an ant farm." Constantine
January 30, 2010
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personally, born, if i was anywhere near this twonk i'd stuff a basketball in his mouth to save the world from sickening idiocy such as his.

I second that MK8.

What I don't get is why these people, this guy and Robertson, think that they can speak for a whole group of people. Robertson for Xtians and this guy for, presumably, all Americans. Who told them what the world wanted? /dry.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':D' />

Imagine there's no heaven, it's easy if you try.



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That which is unchallenged and exercised as habit rapidly becomes ritual.

When this occurs, dissent becomes an object of surprise, if not resentment.



B. Carmon Hardy
January 30, 2010
2:38 pm PDT
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I second that MK8.

What I don't get is why these people, this guy and Robertson, think that they can speak for a whole group of people. Robertson for Xtians and this guy for, presumably, all Americans. Who told them what the world wanted? /dry.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':D' />

you underestimated him, he was speaking for "the rest of the world"

January 30, 2010
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…….i am praying that he has a very low sperm count.

Cracking up at that Annie!

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January 30, 2010
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you underestimated him, he was speaking for "the rest of the world"

You know what Heidi, you're right, and that just makes him an even bigger d-bag.

Imagine there's no heaven, it's easy if you try.



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That which is unchallenged and exercised as habit rapidly becomes ritual.

When this occurs, dissent becomes an object of surprise, if not resentment.



B. Carmon Hardy
January 31, 2010
2:12 am PDT
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good gods! someone who makes robertson seem compassionate! i didn't think anyone could have expressed their feelings about the quake victims in haiti with more distain for the human condition but this guy manages to out disgust the disgusting…….i am praying that he has a very low sperm count.

Former NBA player Paul Shirley has a lot to say, regarding whether he will donate any money to the people of Haiti since the Jan. 12th earthquake.

According to the NY Daily News, Shirley blogged on flipcollective.com:

"I haven't donated a cent to the Haitian relief effort. And I probably will not. I haven't donated to the Haitian relief effort for the same reason that I don't give money to homeless men on the street. Based on past experiences, I don't think the guy with the sign that reads "Need You're Help" is going to do anything constructive with the dollar I might give him. If I use history as my guide, I don't think the people of Haiti will do much with my money either.

… Shouldn't much of the responsibility for the disaster lie with the victims of that disaster?"

During his brief stint as a basketball player--he only played 18 games--Shirley played with the Atlanta Hawks, Chicago Bulls and Pheonix Suns. He used to spend part of his time blogging for ESPN, up until he blogged these comments yesterday:

"Shouldn't there be some discourse on how the millions of dollars that are being poured into Haiti will be spent? And at least a slight reprimand for the conditions prior to the earthquake? Some kind of inquisition? Something like this?:

Dear Haitians –

First of all, kudos on developing the poorest country in the Western Hemisphere. Your commitment to human rights, infrastructure, and birth control should be applauded.

As we prepare to assist you in this difficult time, a polite request: If it's possible, could you not re-build your island home in the image of its predecessor? Could you not resort to the creation of flimsy shanty- and shack-towns? And could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?

Sincerely,

The Rest of the World

ESPN had this to say:

"The views he expressed on another site of course do not at all reflect our company's views on the Haiti relief efforts. He will no longer contribute to ESPN."

Wow. What a tool. Very compassionate, really.

January 31, 2010
2:37 am PDT
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Wow. What a tool. Very compassionate, really.

yeah, real heartwarming stuff. i vote they make a movie re: this great humanitarian. it will star Leslie 'Don't Call Me Shirley' Nielson.

"We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of dreams." - Willy Wonka (Gene Wilder)




"God is a kid with an ant farm." Constantine
February 4, 2010
11:41 pm PDT
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Here is an interesting first hand account of someone who observed the Scientologists in Haiti. It confirms what I have read previously about the woo they are bringing to Haiti that helps no one.

First Hand Account

Imagine there's no heaven, it's easy if you try.



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That which is unchallenged and exercised as habit rapidly becomes ritual.

When this occurs, dissent becomes an object of surprise, if not resentment.



B. Carmon Hardy
February 5, 2010
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wow just wow /wacko.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':angry:' />

February 5, 2010
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wow just wow /wacko.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':wacko:' />

Really. Preying on vulnerable people who are already superstitious? Classy.

Imagine there's no heaven, it's easy if you try.



John Lennon





That which is unchallenged and exercised as habit rapidly becomes ritual.

When this occurs, dissent becomes an object of surprise, if not resentment.



B. Carmon Hardy
February 16, 2010
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We haven't had a worthwhile leader in this country in a while, but to me Obama is much better than the torture supporting, control the American people at all cost (mostly through fear of terrorism) administration that preceded it. I would love to see a third party candidate win the presidency, but the question would then be, who really controls that particular party, and thus the candidate? The people, or those who pay the bills? As long as money is a determining factor in who wins an election I doubt there will be any significant change. Now, if a system could be devised where the Government provided the funds to any viable candidate, and they all received the same amount, then I think special interest groups would have less of a say. That would be better in my book.

I see your point but…I don't feel that Obama is any better. He's obviously just another puppet of bigbusiness & (George Sorus) to name a few. I seriously feel that their puppet is going down.

February 17, 2010
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I see your point but…I don't feel that Obama is any better. He's obviously just another puppet of bigbusiness & (George Sorus) to name a few. I seriously feel that their puppet is going down.

quite the subtle avatar there, seeker.

"We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of dreams." - Willy Wonka (Gene Wilder)




"God is a kid with an ant farm." Constantine
February 17, 2010
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O.B.A.M.A – One Big **** Mistake, America!

This is my view on Haiti (please note this is my opinion.. this is not an attempt to start drama, etc.)

It really, really bothers me that people all over this country stand up for Haiti, when we have our own mouths to feed. People come together, banded as one, to help the efforts of another country. Great, it shows strides in compassion. But, I tend to agree with the NBA star; history shows. The fake that all these superstars, actors, singers and more bought out ALL television stations for some mock up telethon to help them just irks the hell out of me. Why can they not do that for their own, in this country?

Stats in regards to underfed, abused and homeless children are astounding…. but yet, they're totally blinded what's going on here. They'd rather make some big show of effort for Haiti, and forget about our own.

February 20, 2010
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With charitable giving – I think you go where the heart leads. I have donated domestically. I have donated in the wake of disasters. When my heart says "help" I do – wherever that is geographically and whatever the issue is. When I donate to an animal shelter, it isn't because I am ignoring starving humans. It is because that is where my heart led me in that moment. When I donate to the homeless in this country I'm not ignoring animals, illness or the rest of the world. When I donated to Haiti, I wasn't ignoring people domestically. I am but one person with a very limited bank account in a world filled with inequity, tragedy, illness, pain, and often injustice. If I could, I would give unlimited amounts of money to every good cause, adopt every shelter animal and heal the world of all of its inequities and injustices. But I can't. I'm one person. That leaves me to follow my heart where it takes me and where it feels right in the moment. Last month, that was Haiti. Before and after that, it has been and will be different causes.

I tend to believe that if everyone opened their hearts, there would be enough to go around. I feel that because we believe that by giving to one cause we are taking away from another (or from ourselves), that is why it seems like there isn't enough to go around.

History is one thing, but right now is another. I'm a big believer in second chances. And third chances….or as many chances as it takes. After all, we're talking about human beings here. I know that I would like to be treated with compassion in the wake of disaster regardless of mistakes that I might have made – or that my forbearers made – because I am doing my very best right now in this moment. While my very best may not be as good as someone else's very best, it is still the best I can do, and given the tools I have to work with, I am trying. And so is everyone else.

March 3, 2010
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This guy just doesn't shut his big fat mouth!! The vile filth that I wish I could spew right now is staggering, but I'm sure you can form your own opinions of this "wonderful xtian man". <<<<<<<Absolute SARCASM.

God Even Angrier with Chile

Imagine there's no heaven, it's easy if you try.



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That which is unchallenged and exercised as habit rapidly becomes ritual.

When this occurs, dissent becomes an object of surprise, if not resentment.



B. Carmon Hardy
March 4, 2010
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born…this piece was written as sarcasm. i use OS for blogging and it was much discussed. the main problem is most of us wouldn't be surprised if robertson were to say such a thing. i believed it when i started reading, but there are hints thru out.

unfortunately, i guess some people only get the headline in their e-mail and didn't have the chance to read the actual article.

"We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of dreams." - Willy Wonka (Gene Wilder)




"God is a kid with an ant farm." Constantine
March 5, 2010
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born…this piece was written as sarcasm. i use OS for blogging and it was much discussed. the main problem is most of us wouldn't be surprised if robertson were to say such a thing. i believed it when i started reading, but there are hints thru out.

unfortunately, i guess some people only get the headline in their e-mail and didn't have the chance to read the actual article.

Okay, duly noted, as you said, it is easily believed. Oh, and it's not that I "got the headline in [my] email and didn't have the chance to read the actual article." I got the story from another source that quoted this one. Here is an actual quote by Robertson on the quake:

Robertson is quoted as saying:

“If I had to guess, I’d say it must have to do with Chile’s persecution and attempted prosecution of their great former leader, and a personal hero of mine, Augusto Pinochet – who, it should be noted, had never been convicted of a crime when the Lord called him home three years ago. . . General Pinochet not only assisted the CIA in the overthrow of Chile’s Marxist government, but is widely credited with personally arranging the meetings of hundreds, perhaps thousands, of his countrymen with Jesus.”

So, that's tons better, huh? He's still a vile human being.

Imagine there's no heaven, it's easy if you try.



John Lennon





That which is unchallenged and exercised as habit rapidly becomes ritual.

When this occurs, dissent becomes an object of surprise, if not resentment.



B. Carmon Hardy
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