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Bahá’í Religion
May 30, 2009
4:29 am PDT
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I was born in '65….so I could have been a child hippie….

I think it sounds good because I like to live in a happy rose-colored world where there is equality, and people take care of one another No matter how detached from reality it really is.

Love to believe that. But it's not the reality. Wish it were so.

May 30, 2009
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Love to believe that. But it's not the reality. Wish it were so.

Yeah – I know it isn't. My mother always said I was a Polyanna….it's an interesting juxtaposition to be both a hopeful Polyanna and a realist all at the same time.

May 30, 2009
4:46 am PDT
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Yeah – I know it isn't. My mother always said I was a Polyanna….it's an interesting juxtaposition to be both a hopeful Polyanna and a realist all at the same time.

How can a mystic be a cynic all at the same time? By choosing one's arguments. So I've been told.

May 30, 2009
6:34 am PDT
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Love to believe that. But it's not the reality. Wish it were so.

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Beings that I grew up in a commune, and I lived the life.

No this isn't rose colored glasses but reality.

It is possible, if everyone involved puts the same efforts forward.

We grew up together.

We kept our elders in with us, and took care of them.

We raised our food, grew our vegetables.

We canned foods, churned butter, baked breads.

I went to a two room school; and we all worked with each other.

THIS IS A POSSIBILITY, I LIVED IT.

It's nay sayers and skeptics that keep the negativity in it alive.

It's those that assume it's a cult; when in fact our commune had no religious basis…other than to give back to the earth what we have taken.

May 30, 2009
2:31 pm PDT
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Beings that I grew up in a commune, and I lived the life.

No this isn't rose colored glasses but reality.

It is possible, if everyone involved puts the same efforts forward.

We grew up together.

We kept our elders in with us, and took care of them.

We raised our food, grew our vegetables.

We canned foods, churned butter, baked breads.

I went to a two room school; and we all worked with each other.

THIS IS A POSSIBILITY, I LIVED IT.

It's nay sayers and skeptics that keep the negativity in it alive.

It's those that assume it's a cult; when in fact our commune had no religious basis…other than to give back to the earth what we have taken.

I have always been interested in co-housing. Not quite a commune – but a group of people in an intentional community with a set of similar values.

I do believe that in small groups these things ARE possible. The problem is when you bring together everyone else and the jerks ruin it for everyone else. There are some bad people in the world.

May 30, 2009
5:32 pm PDT
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Beings that I grew up in a commune, and I lived the life.

No this isn't rose colored glasses but reality.

It is possible, if everyone involved puts the same efforts forward.

We grew up together.

We kept our elders in with us, and took care of them.

We raised our food, grew our vegetables.

We canned foods, churned butter, baked breads.

I went to a two room school; and we all worked with each other.

THIS IS A POSSIBILITY, I LIVED IT.

It's nay sayers and skeptics that keep the negativity in it alive.

It's those that assume it's a cult; when in fact our commune had no religious basis…other than to give back to the earth what we have taken.

As the resident, nattering naybob of skeptical negativity . . . nah, skip it. Glad it worked for you.

May 30, 2009
7:27 pm PDT
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Beings that I grew up in a commune, and I lived the life.

No this isn't rose colored glasses but reality.

It is possible, if everyone involved puts the same efforts forward.

We grew up together.

We kept our elders in with us, and took care of them.

We raised our food, grew our vegetables.

We canned foods, churned butter, baked breads.

I went to a two room school; and we all worked with each other.

THIS IS A POSSIBILITY, I LIVED IT.

It's nay sayers and skeptics that keep the negativity in it alive.

It's those that assume it's a cult; when in fact our commune had no religious basis…other than to give back to the earth what we have taken.

Does the commune still thrive?

May 30, 2009
11:38 pm PDT
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One facet of it does, yes. It's in Chewelah, WA.

We started in Seaside/Astoria Oregon. Got too big and split off, with a part of us going to Concord, CA.

When Concord got too big, we split again and went to Chewelah.

It was a good community; I learned a lot about love and morals.

I had culture shock when I was integrated into public schools.

May 31, 2009
12:01 am PDT
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I would just like to interject a little here about communes and cults. Communes in no way should be considered a cult, and cults should not be considered communes. The reason is that while cults will have communal traits, they are driven by religious fanaticism. Communes are not. Communes consist of people working toward a common goal, which is usually the self-sustenance of their social order. All members are considered equally important to the group, and decisions are made based on the overall consensus of its members. The group thrives because of this ideology. In a cult, there are leaders and there are followers, all driven by one idea, the glorification of their leaders and their religious dogma. Some cults are totally harmless, but as you all are aware, history has shown some to be deadly. The danger begins when the members of a cult blindly follow the wishes of their leadership, no matter how absurd. You would never find this type of behavior in a commune. Remember, culture is defined as a group of people sharing common beliefs and ideologies with a symbolic system of values and attitudes that shapes and influences perception and behavior, so technically a commune can be defined as a micro culture, and has been studied in depth by many anthropologists and sociologists. Just sayin’……

Archaeology is the peeping Tom of the sciences. It is the sandbox of men who care not where they are going; they merely want to know where everyone else has been.- Jim Bishop
May 31, 2009
12:48 am PDT
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I actually got teary reading what you wrote.

Communes consist of people working toward a common goal, which is usually the self-sustenance of their social order. All members are considered equally important to the group, and decisions are made based on the overall consensus of its members. The group thrives because of this ideology…..You would never find this type of behavior in a commune. Remember, culture is defined as a group of people sharing common beliefs and ideologies with a symbolic system of values and attitudes that shapes and influences perception and behavior, so technically a commune can be defined as a micro culture, and has been studied in depth by many anthropologists and sociologists. Just sayin’……

This is exactly how we were; old or young everyone contributed. We were all important. The elders taught us youngins' certain things to survive. The youngins kept the elders alive by visiting, listening, learning. Convalescence homes are a disgrace, in my opinion. We put them away, shuffle them around, and so easily forget about them in our society.

I will never, and I vow never, allow this to happen with my mother. As much as we don't get along, she is still my mother. In the event she becomes dependent, my rendering tells me to care for as she has with us as children.

We forget that they raised us, rendered us, and life is cyclical; what goes around comes around.

May 31, 2009
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I actually got teary reading what you wrote.

This is exactly how we were; old or young everyone contributed. We were all important. The elders taught us youngins' certain things to survive. The youngins kept the elders alive by visiting, listening, learning. Convalescence homes are a disgrace, in my opinion. We put them away, shuffle them around, and so easily forget about them in our society.

I will never, and I vow never, allow this to happen with my mother. As much as we don't get along, she is still my mother. In the event she becomes dependent, my rendering tells me to care for as she has with us as children.

We forget that they raised us, rendered us, and life is cyclical; what goes around comes around.

I think there is something to be said for a community of adults raising a community of children. We do it in isolation, and I see a lot who are really, really bad at it. Maybe those children who are raised by the parents who don't do so well would have more of a foundation of love, values and self-worth if there was an entire community of adults there that could step in where the parents failed.

May 31, 2009
1:48 am PDT
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I think there is something to be said for a community of adults raising a community of children. We do it in isolation, and I see a lot who are really, really bad at it. Maybe those children who are raised by the parents who don't do so well would have more of a foundation of love, values and self-worth if there was an entire community of adults there that could step in where the parents failed.

"It takes a village."

Though I actively dislike Hillary, I have to admit she was spot-on here. Of course you have to keep a close eye on your village.

May 31, 2009
2:14 am PDT
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"It takes a village."

Though I actively dislike Hillary, I have to admit she was spot-on here. Of course you have to keep a close eye on your village.

Yep – Hillary was running thru my head as I wrote that post.

May 31, 2009
2:15 am PDT
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Yep – Hillary was running thru my head as I wrote that post.

Sorry about that.

May 31, 2009
3:05 am PDT
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Sorry about that.

It's okay. She was wearing clothes.

May 31, 2009
3:08 am PDT
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It's okay. She was wearing clothes.

Thanks. You've just given me a disturbing image.

May 31, 2009
4:29 am PDT
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In Bali it's this way; a village raises their children. My husband and I's friend from high school moved there after graduation. Literally you can leave your child playing in the front yard to run an errand; all the neighbors watch for, watch out for, and take care of that child while you're away.

If something happens to the child, it's old school vigilantism.

Babysitters, nannies, etc do not exist.

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