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October 6, 2009
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I was wondering if anyone has been to Sedona, Arizona or has any up to date information on the occurrences at the Bradshaw Ranch in that area? I am reading Merging Dimensions and it has some of the most unbelievable events documented that I have ever read about. It has had very similar occurrences to the Gorman Ranch in Utah and both appear to have some type of portals to another dimension that appear sporadically on them. This stuff is so hard to wrap your mind around that I have a hard time believing it is all real but if they are making this up it took a lot of collaboration by a lot of people and a remarkable imagination. There are a bunch of bazaar photos included but since they are so small and reprinted in black and white it is hard to discern anything.

"They insisted that the victim animals simply had died of dog bites from dogs or other animals. They suggested that disease might have been responsible for one animal's death. They denied that the victims had been exsanguinated, as many witnesses had claimed, and even suggested that the puncture wounds reported might be from barbed wire. Callers reminded them that some wounds were deep enough to reach into the victims' lungs, that the flesh was not torn as in dog bites, that signs of struggles were inexplicably missing, and that corpses did not decay normally, but their arguments were brushed aside. Also brushed aside were callers' attempts to bring extraterrestrials into the conversation.

When the recording ended. I rewound it and played it again and again. I still could not believe what I was hearing. The callers had the skeptics pinned against the ropes from the very first call." - Scott Corrales

October 6, 2009
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I've heard people speak of Sedona but I've never been there. I wonder if either ranch are on some ley lines.

October 10, 2009
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Define "portal." What are its mechanics, effects, properties? How can these be understood, observed and measured?

October 10, 2009
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Define "portal." What are its mechanics, effects, properties? How can these be understood, observed and measured?

First you get a room on the Queen Mary. Then take out your trusty tape mea…….Oh, wait

that's a port hole. My bad! /laugh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=' Laugh ' /> Seriously though, the 4 state square in question does have

some strange places. Colorado has Manitou Springs. The Indians thought enough of the place to

steer clear of it. I haven't seen any related stories in awhile though.

October 10, 2009
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Define "portal." What are its mechanics, effects, properties? How can these be understood, observed and measured?

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In this context it would describe a "doorway" from one dimension to another. They are only theoretical at this time and therefore cannot be measured by any parameters of quantitative science. They have seemingly been observed and photographed but no physical data has been derived to my knowledge. They are outside the logic boundaries of what is known about time and space but are theorized to be plausible.

"They insisted that the victim animals simply had died of dog bites from dogs or other animals. They suggested that disease might have been responsible for one animal's death. They denied that the victims had been exsanguinated, as many witnesses had claimed, and even suggested that the puncture wounds reported might be from barbed wire. Callers reminded them that some wounds were deep enough to reach into the victims' lungs, that the flesh was not torn as in dog bites, that signs of struggles were inexplicably missing, and that corpses did not decay normally, but their arguments were brushed aside. Also brushed aside were callers' attempts to bring extraterrestrials into the conversation.

When the recording ended. I rewound it and played it again and again. I still could not believe what I was hearing. The callers had the skeptics pinned against the ropes from the very first call." - Scott Corrales

October 10, 2009
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In this context it would describe a "doorway" from one dimension to another. They are only theoretical at this time and therefore cannot be measured by any parameters of quantitative science. They have seemingly been observed and photographed but no physical data has been derived to my knowledge. They are outside the logic boundaries of what is known about time and space but are theorized to be plausible.

Some think Sedona is a vortex. World vortexes, Manchu Pichu, Great Pyramid, and Stonehenge.

In Sedona, you can take a vortex journey with a guide.

Curious, does the Bradshaw ranch offer these?

From my reading, these vortex sites have the 2012 tie in.

Along with aliens and crop circles.

Does Bradshaw have ufo accounts?

October 11, 2009
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In this context it would describe a "doorway" from one dimension to another. They are only theoretical at this time and therefore cannot be measured by any parameters of quantitative science. They have seemingly been observed and photographed but no physical data has been derived to my knowledge. They are outside the logic boundaries of what is known about time and space but are theorized to be plausible.

What credentialed individual, where and when theorized this was a possibility?

October 11, 2009
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What credentialed individual, where and when theorized this was a possibility?

You are assuming Dover is not credentialed. LOL

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You are assuming Dover is not credentialed. LOL

My poor.

October 11, 2009
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What credentialed individual, where and when theorized this was a possibility?

Dawkins, don't know if it's possible. But, people have been kicking around the doorways to dimensions as long as I can remember.

But, it's fun. Remember Twilight Zone. Rod's little opening lines, to his stories.

October 11, 2009
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My poor.

I was just joking around.

But it sounds like Dover knows a bit about the subject, so hopefully he can provide more info. This subject is fascinating to me.

October 11, 2009
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Some think Sedona is a vortex. World vortexes, Manchu Pichu, Great Pyramid, and Stonehenge.

In Sedona, you can take a vortex journey with a guide.

Curious, does the Bradshaw ranch offer these?

From my reading, these vortex sites have the 2012 tie in.

Along with aliens and crop circles.

Does Bradshaw have ufo accounts?

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Not sure what goes on there now the she moved to Montana. The Sedona area is rampant with UFO sightings. There were UFO encounters at the ranch documented yes.

"They insisted that the victim animals simply had died of dog bites from dogs or other animals. They suggested that disease might have been responsible for one animal's death. They denied that the victims had been exsanguinated, as many witnesses had claimed, and even suggested that the puncture wounds reported might be from barbed wire. Callers reminded them that some wounds were deep enough to reach into the victims' lungs, that the flesh was not torn as in dog bites, that signs of struggles were inexplicably missing, and that corpses did not decay normally, but their arguments were brushed aside. Also brushed aside were callers' attempts to bring extraterrestrials into the conversation.

When the recording ended. I rewound it and played it again and again. I still could not believe what I was hearing. The callers had the skeptics pinned against the ropes from the very first call." - Scott Corrales

October 11, 2009
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I think Sci Fi Investigates went to Sedona but didn't find much. Anyone else remember that episode???

October 11, 2009
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I was just joking around.

But it sounds like Dover knows a bit about the subject, so hopefully he can provide more info. This subject is fascinating to me.

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Not an expert by any means but from reading different accounts there seems to be some investigators that are seriously leaning towards dimensional windows as being the source of strange entities, creatures, craft and orbs. There seems to be no other solution or source that is more plausible. Read Hunt for the Skinwalker, Merging Dimensions, and Interdimensional Universe and see what you think. I mean some people would not believe some of these accounts which I can understand because some are just so far off the charts of known phenomenon it is hard to wrap your mind around as being possible.

"They insisted that the victim animals simply had died of dog bites from dogs or other animals. They suggested that disease might have been responsible for one animal's death. They denied that the victims had been exsanguinated, as many witnesses had claimed, and even suggested that the puncture wounds reported might be from barbed wire. Callers reminded them that some wounds were deep enough to reach into the victims' lungs, that the flesh was not torn as in dog bites, that signs of struggles were inexplicably missing, and that corpses did not decay normally, but their arguments were brushed aside. Also brushed aside were callers' attempts to bring extraterrestrials into the conversation.

When the recording ended. I rewound it and played it again and again. I still could not believe what I was hearing. The callers had the skeptics pinned against the ropes from the very first call." - Scott Corrales

October 11, 2009
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I think Sci Fi Investigates went to Sedona but didn't find much. Anyone else remember that episode???

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Scifi Investigates did do a show there. I don't recall how thorough it was or how long they stayed but did not seem they noted much but I do recall an usual amount of residences having a UFO sightings.

"They insisted that the victim animals simply had died of dog bites from dogs or other animals. They suggested that disease might have been responsible for one animal's death. They denied that the victims had been exsanguinated, as many witnesses had claimed, and even suggested that the puncture wounds reported might be from barbed wire. Callers reminded them that some wounds were deep enough to reach into the victims' lungs, that the flesh was not torn as in dog bites, that signs of struggles were inexplicably missing, and that corpses did not decay normally, but their arguments were brushed aside. Also brushed aside were callers' attempts to bring extraterrestrials into the conversation.

When the recording ended. I rewound it and played it again and again. I still could not believe what I was hearing. The callers had the skeptics pinned against the ropes from the very first call." - Scott Corrales

October 11, 2009
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Scifi Investigates did do a show there. I don't recall how thorough it was or how long they stayed but did not seem they noted much but I do recall an usual amount of residences having a UFO sightings.

DD, I enjoy your topics. Always something interesting, I've not heard about. So, I google.

There are a lot of UFO accounts in the Sedona area. Found lots of accounts in Secret Canyon and Secret Mountain north and northeast of Sedona.

Along with the ufo accounts, many people have claimed encounters with men in black uniforms with guns while hiking the canyons. Warnings of turn around and leave, or be shot have been reported by many. White vehicles with U N on the side. Reports of people, seeing some type of military compound built into the mountain. Sightings of blackhawk helicopters flying in the area.

In 1997, three woman while hiking the cayon, were killed and beheaded.

The newspaper surpressed the news, to the investigation.

This area seems to have a lot of accounts, even bigfoot at Bradshaw ranch.

Is Bradshaw ranch owned by the government now?

October 11, 2009
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Not an expert by any means but from reading different accounts there seems to be some investigators that are seriously leaning towards dimensional windows as being the source of strange entities, creatures, craft and orbs. There seems to be no other solution or source that is more plausible. Read Hunt for the Skinwalker, Merging Dimensions, and Interdimensional Universe and see what you think. I mean some people would not believe some of these accounts which I can understand because some are just so far off the charts of known phenomenon it is hard to wrap your mind around as being possible.

I wonder if chad has any of these books. If not, I'll put them on my read list. Thanks!

October 11, 2009
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DD, I enjoy your topics. Always something interesting, I've not heard about. So, I google.

There are a lot of UFO accounts in the Sedona area. Found lots of accounts in Secret Canyon and Secret Mountain north and northeast of Sedona.

Along with the ufo accounts, many people have claimed encounters with men in black uniforms with guns while hiking the canyons. Warnings of turn around and leave, or be shot have been reported by many. White vehicles with U N on the side. Reports of people, seeing some type of military compound built into the mountain. Sightings of blackhawk helicopters flying in the area.

In 1997, three woman while hiking the cayon, were killed and beheaded.

The newspaper surpressed the news, to the investigation.

This area seems to have a lot of accounts, even bigfoot at Bradshaw ranch.

Is Bradshaw ranch owned by the government now?

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I enjoy reading about this kind of stuff, not the killings by any means, but the unusual goings on that seem to occur in skewed numbers in certain parts of the US.

I have not researched the status of the Bradshaw Ranch since I read about Linda & her family's encounters in the mid 90's.

I know the "Gorman" ranch in northeast Utah, which had a bunch of similar, literally just bizarre events, happen there was bought by Bob Bigilow and he brought NIDS in to study and they had a some strange encounters. They had issues with documenting evidence, apparently there was some type of intelligent control that was deliberately avoiding detection. I know you have to take it on their word for the most part but if even half of these events are real it is mind numbing.

"They insisted that the victim animals simply had died of dog bites from dogs or other animals. They suggested that disease might have been responsible for one animal's death. They denied that the victims had been exsanguinated, as many witnesses had claimed, and even suggested that the puncture wounds reported might be from barbed wire. Callers reminded them that some wounds were deep enough to reach into the victims' lungs, that the flesh was not torn as in dog bites, that signs of struggles were inexplicably missing, and that corpses did not decay normally, but their arguments were brushed aside. Also brushed aside were callers' attempts to bring extraterrestrials into the conversation.

When the recording ended. I rewound it and played it again and again. I still could not believe what I was hearing. The callers had the skeptics pinned against the ropes from the very first call." - Scott Corrales

October 11, 2009
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I wonder if chad has any of these books. If not, I'll put them on my read list. Thanks!

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Cheryl, I also would recommend "The Montauk Project" by Preston Nichols & Peter Moon, if you have not read it. This makes for some of the most unbelievable stuff I have ever read. Even if not all true it makes for some wonderful fiction. It ties in Einstein, Tesla, the Philadelphia Experiment, and time travel all related to each other. This book would make a heck of a movie for SyFy that would blow "Megashark vs Giant Octopus" out of the water, well that wouldn't take much though would it?

"They insisted that the victim animals simply had died of dog bites from dogs or other animals. They suggested that disease might have been responsible for one animal's death. They denied that the victims had been exsanguinated, as many witnesses had claimed, and even suggested that the puncture wounds reported might be from barbed wire. Callers reminded them that some wounds were deep enough to reach into the victims' lungs, that the flesh was not torn as in dog bites, that signs of struggles were inexplicably missing, and that corpses did not decay normally, but their arguments were brushed aside. Also brushed aside were callers' attempts to bring extraterrestrials into the conversation.

When the recording ended. I rewound it and played it again and again. I still could not believe what I was hearing. The callers had the skeptics pinned against the ropes from the very first call." - Scott Corrales

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