You will probably never know…sadly.

I think the secret of the art of making crop circles, is anonymity.

One-upmanship.

John Lundberg, was the creator of many of the intricate circles. Wiki

Some of his clients, (companies who approached him to make circles) were The Discovery and History Channels, The Sun, Uk Tabloid, BBC, and NBC-TV.

circlemakers.org gives direction how to make circles, beginner to advanced. It's John Lundberg's site, he must be speaking from experience.

I don't disagree that there are a ton of circles that are man-made. I do think it is an art form.

Interesting site (circlemakers.org). Teeny tiny print, but interesting nonetheless. There seems to be a certain amount of magical thinking involved even in the human made ones – the instructions involve dowsing rods, leylines, energy, rituals involving seven stalks to improve the energy of the circle (seven is a magic number).

I'm curious though about two things: magnetic orbs in the soil that distribute outward in a linear fashion so that the concentration is at the edge of the formation and the stalks that look like the water inside of them has been super heated so that it bursts out the stalks. These findings don't occur in ALL crop circles, but they certainly occur in some, and would be inconsistent with using rollers to create the formation.

Ideas?

None at the moment, but I'm still looking around and checking out circlemakers. org

The print is so small, my reading glasses are not working and using a hand held magnifier. **** old age!

But, your making me think!

I really think that crop circles are done by intergalactic teenagers who get drunk and joyride in their parents saucers….I bet that it's some kind of big dare for them to come and do crop graffiti in Iowa…. /biggrin.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':P' />

HA!

It's actually as good of an explanation as any other, don't you think?

The universe is full of mystery. That's what I like about it.

Very true… and although I was being flippant, you're correct in that it's just as good an explanation as any. I have actually always been a proponent of the magnetic field idea. geometry is hidden in many facets of nature, so why not there?

Very true… and although I was being flippant, you're correct in that it's just as good an explanation as any. I have actually always been a proponent of the magnetic field idea. geometry is hidden in many facets of nature, so why not there?

Hi Gryph! Great to see you!

The magnetic field idea is quite interesting!

Anything is possible.

Aren't these circles just fascinating.

Ohhh…interesting. So. I just interviewed an artist for next month's PUG, and we talked about crop circles as expressions of sacred geometry, which she uses in her art. Much to ponder.

Yeah – I knew you were joking but seriously – it is as good of an explanation as anything. Teenagers. You just never know what they'll do.

Yup. Teens. You are welcome to mine if you feel the need..at 17, she's just enough to make ME want to run in circles in a field!!

As far as the people doing crop circles, it's cool, but there are some out there that were so amazingly complex that I would find it hard to believe anyone could have done them in one night, or with less than 50 or so people… someday we may know, but not today. I'm looking forward to reading the article!

but, I think that the intricate designs are what makes them paranormal. Sure, some of them are easily dismissed as human designs, but some are far too intricate to be made by humans, in the dark, in a few short hours. maybe its not aliens but some other force we are not yet familiar with, who knows?

Yeah…I have to agree on that one. Sure, some of them could easily be hoaxed. People have been copying nature for thousands of years, so why not that too?

I agree that the very intricacy of some of them doesn't lend itself easily to hoaxes.

Well,

Crop Circles, here in the uk its widely believed that they are the work of Hoaxes, well, i dont think they are, they are so so pefect, and when you do see one on tv that is obviously a hoax, there is no comparison..

Lee.

Well,

Crop Circles, here in the uk its widely believed that they are the work of Hoaxes, well, i dont think they are, they are so so pefect, and when you do see one on tv that is obviously a hoax, there is no comparison..

Lee.

I've noticed that as well. The ones they do to "reveal the hoax" are simplistic, and STILL take them almost a full night to complete. And if they were actually trying to do it in such a way that they wouldn't be caught at it, I believe that even the simple ones would be darn near impossible to complete.