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        	<title>GeekSpeak on Scientifi Theory that seemingly supports Spirits</title>
        	<link>http://www.paranormalunderground.net/forum/spirituality/scientifi-theory-that-seemingly-supports-spirits/page-1560/#p31193</link>
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<p>	I believe that it supports theories of the existance of spirits. </p>
<p>	&#34;The evolution of the meaning of energy illustrates the departure of scientific ideas from the strictly material premise&#34;</p>
<p>	&#34;Traditionally, mass and energy have not been assigned to a named category. Because there are only two of them, it is easy enough to identify them simply as mass, energy, or mass/energy. Nevertheless, it is useful to categorize these quantities as &#34;principles,&#34; corresponding to the definition in the Oxford English Dictionary (OED)&#34;</p>
<p>	The easiest way to put it is that you cant see energy per se, yet it has an effect on its surroundings.</p>
<p>	So in my opinion the ideas of Watson, can support other theories of spiritual, paranormal, and other ideas.</p>
<p>	Did you enjoy the paper? Did you read it all?  What did you think of the ideas?</p>
<p>	WWGSD..</p>
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	As a philosophical and scientific materialist, I&#39;m not down with &#34;holistic systemics,&#34; nor am I comfortable around metaphysics, or the use of QM to somehow explain metaphysics.  Whenever I see &#34;spooky action at a distance&#34; quoted, I know what&#39;s coming, an attempt to shoehorn paranormal phenomena into a discussion about QM, and I don&#39;t think it belongs there.  </p>
<p>	Arthur Koestler and Gary Shwartz are cited; the former a mystic, the latter an &#34;enabler&#34; when it comes to psychics.  Einstein is cited as well, though his name shouldn&#39;t be uttered with these others.</p>
<p>	In other words, I&#39;m skeptical, go figure.</p>
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	Please don&#39;t mistake my interests with a personally held belief system.  I am skeptical also.  I found the writing very interesting, and supportive of the ideas of spiritualism, from the standpoints I mentioned. </p>
<p>	While I guess it could be considered &#34;Shoehorning&#34; but in my opinion its just a presentation of ideas that provoke further thought. </p>
<p>	WWGSD..</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 06:51:14 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<link>http://www.paranormalunderground.net/forum/spirituality/scientifi-theory-that-seemingly-supports-spirits/page-1558/#p31143</link>
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<p>	I believe that it supports theories of the existance of spirits. </p>
<p>	&#34;The evolution of the meaning of energy illustrates the departure of scientific ideas from the strictly material premise&#34;</p>
<p>	&#34;Traditionally, mass and energy have not been assigned to a named category. Because there are only two of them, it is easy enough to identify them simply as mass, energy, or mass/energy. Nevertheless, it is useful to categorize these quantities as &#34;principles,&#34; corresponding to the definition in the Oxford English Dictionary (OED)&#34;</p>
<p>	The easiest way to put it is that you cant see energy per se, yet it has an effect on its surroundings.</p>
<p>	So in my opinion the ideas of Watson, can support other theories of spiritual, paranormal, and other ideas.</p>
<p>	Did you enjoy the paper? Did you read it all?  What did you think of the ideas?</p>
<p>	WWGSD..</p>
<p>	[/quote</p>
<p>	As a philosophical and scientific materialist, I&#39;m not down with &#34;holistic systemics,&#34; nor am I comfortable around metaphysics, or the use of QM to somehow explain metaphysics.  Whenever I see &#34;spooky action at a distance&#34; quoted, I know what&#39;s coming, an attempt to shoehorn paranormal phenomena into a discussion about QM, and I don&#39;t think it belongs there.  </p>
<p>	Arthur Koestler and Gary Shwartz are cited; the former a mystic, the latter an &#34;enabler&#34; when it comes to psychics.  Einstein is cited as well, though his name shouldn&#39;t be uttered with these others.</p>
<p>	In other words, I&#39;m skeptical, go figure.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 00:31:11 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>GeekSpeak on Scientifi Theory that seemingly supports Spirits</title>
        	<link>http://www.paranormalunderground.net/forum/spirituality/scientifi-theory-that-seemingly-supports-spirits/page-1548/#p30957</link>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>How do you feel any of this &#34;supports&#34; spirits?</p>
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	I believe that it supports theories of the existance of spirits. </p>
<p>	&#34;The evolution of the meaning of energy illustrates the departure of scientific ideas from the strictly material premise&#34;</p>
<p>	&#34;Traditionally, mass and energy have not been assigned to a named category. Because there are only two of them, it is easy enough to identify them simply as mass, energy, or mass/energy. Nevertheless, it is useful to categorize these quantities as &#34;principles,&#34; corresponding to the definition in the Oxford English Dictionary (OED)&#34;</p>
<p>	The easiest way to put it is that you cant see energy per se, yet it has an effect on its surroundings.</p>
<p>	So in my opinion the ideas of Watson, can support other theories of spiritual, paranormal, and other ideas.</p>
<p>	Did you enjoy the paper? Did you read it all?  What did you think of the ideas?</p>
<p>	WWGSD..</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:14:00 -0800</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I am very curious as to a skeptical analysis of these ideas.</p>
<p>	I would encourage the science minded to please read and comment.  There is a lot to agree with, and some surprising thoughts.</p>
<p>	<a href="http://www.enformy.com/&#036;system.html" target="_blank">The Most Basic Science</a></p>
<p>	WWGSD..</p>
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	How do you feel any of this &#34;supports&#34; spirits?</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 00:36:54 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>GeekSpeak on Scientifi Theory that seemingly supports Spirits</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>I am very curious as to a skeptical analysis of these ideas.</p>
<p>	I would encourage the science minded to please read and comment.  There is a lot to agree with, and some surprising thoughts.</p>
<p>	<a href="http://www.enformy.com/&#036;system.html" target="_blank">The Most Basic Science</a></p>
<p>	WWGSD..</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 20:22:13 -0800</pubDate>
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