I'm still continually at a loss.

Various people come into various Psychic – Paranormal groups … claiming 'This' or 'That' – pscyhic or paranormal ability.

Then when asked to please provide proof ….

"WHAT!!??? I have nothing to prove to this group." /angry.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':(' />

Now wait. One comes into the group making Claims of Grandure … and are not expecting to provide proof? Really? /blink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

Then they (not all) get "spiritual righteous" --> "Well obviously you have no clue who I am. So I'll just go to another group where I will be received and except for who I am." /huh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':huh:' />

Why is it such a shock to these people when you ask them back up they say, with proof? /mellow.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='<_<' />

I'm confused. Are you talking about people who claim to be psychics or people who claim to have paranormal experiences, which could mean that they might be 'sensitive" or whatever the lingo is?

I personally haven't witnessed anyone on this site claiming to be a powerful psychic or medium. I have witnessed people who have had paranormal experiences and want to talk about them. Are you saying that all of those people, myself included, should only talk about these experiences if we have actual hard evidence?

IMHO there are two types of people who visit sites like this: those people who search for hard evidence and those people who have had personal experiences and want to connect with other people who have had similar experiences. I'm the second kind of visitor here. I came here because I had a really frightening experience and was desperately searching for someone else who had experienced something similar.

I was very fortunate to find some people here who had seen what I saw, and one person who had almost exactly the same experience that I had. If I hadn't overcome my fear of talking about my crazy experience, I never would have found someone else who had experienced it. I had no proof of my story and she had none of hers, but our experiences were so incredibly similar. We both would have missed a real connection if we had to provide proof to post about an experience and that would have been a real shame. It helps to know that you aren't alone: believe me.

No one on this site seems to be seeking fame or glory from their stories. We just compare notes and share thoughts. Evidence people talk about cameras, recorders, etc. Experience people talk about experiences.

Can't we all just get along?

…I think I get what JJB is saying. I have run across people who have claimed to be sensitive yet are basically just allowing their imaginations to run a little wild. They get interested in the whole paranormal thing and it just sounds a little more self lifting to call themselves sensitive or psychic, rather than just be a normal person! No offense to the normal people out there. /tongue.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='<_<' />

They may want to join a group in hopes of discovering if their premonitions are more than just imagination, or to meet others who may think the way they do, or even to surround themselves with people who will give them the attention they are really craving. Every situation is different. But regardless of what others may expect from anyone who makes these types of claims – rather you believe them or not – I think demanding proof upfront is rather narrow minded (if that is what is/was done), and to be honest – I could see where they could take it as an offense. See how they do on a few investigations. If you can't prove spirits exist, how can they?

LoL well, I suppose it is a good question as to why there aren't more psychic lottery winners, huh?

LoL well, I suppose it is a good question as to why there aren't more psychic lottery winners, huh?

Well they can't ever see that kind of info /tongue.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':(' /> you know the whole not for personal gain just for helping others thing /blink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='<_<' />

I truly believe that we send and receive thoughts all the time between ourselves without ever realizing that we do it. Maybe it's not really thoughts, but more like thought fragments or images. They are probably so brief that our brain interprets them as our own thoughts and we usually never notice.

My friend and I participated in an experiment at the Rhine Center at Duke University. It was one of those experiments where one of you is in a dark room with ping pong balls over your eyes and white noise in your ears. The other person gets shown flashes of an image on a computer screen for a microsecond. I was the sender and I had no idea what I was seeing. Seriously, not a clue. But my friend still had a very high hit rate. We were both completely shocked, but the researchers didn't get too excited because apparently it's not abnormal to get high hit rates.

20 years later I'm still blown away by the fact that I could somehow send images to my friend that I couldn't consciously process. Weird. Do I believe it's paranormal? Nope. I think it may be part of our primal brain, when we didn't have language to communicate, but that's just my guess. My friend and I were very close at the time and I'm sure that had a lot to do with it. The researchers were only testing close friends and family members. I assume they did a separate study with strangers but I have no clue what their hit rate was.

I also think it's our primal brain survival center that lets us "feel" the presence of a ghost, spirit, entity, whatever. We sense their presence the way a deer senses someone watching it. Even if I'm watching them from inside the house with all the windows closed so I know they can't smell me, one of them will inevitably sense me and look straight at the window I'm peeking out of. IMHO, it's just survival instinct. Nothing woo hoo about that.

This is awesome! Thanks for sharing! I totally agree that we are interconnected in this way- being able to "read" each other. I think that it's like with any talent- everyone's got them, and some people are better at some things than other.

I am very intuitive. It has caused people to say, "wow – I think you're psychic." I would never cop to that – because think I'm just intuitive and my mind can process information very, very quickly. I tend to think we commonly mistake people who are tuned into their intuition for being psychic, when really with intuition we just process information very rapidly. And I think that many self proclaimed psychics are probably just very intuitive (and some I've seen aren't even that). But I do believe psychics exist. I know a few people who I would consider to have beyond just natural intuition. And I've met a few other people that my intuition has said "bad dinner theater" the second I saw them go into their psychic schtick.

Couldn't agree more. I have friends that are convinced I'm psychic. I just think I have a good "sixth sense" about me- I guess you could even just refer to it as judgement. Judging situations or people as well as sensing things that can't be seen(ghosts, feelings ect.) is something I'm good at. I'm not psychic- I can't "see" dead people at the drop of a hat and I'd never try and convince anyone I was. It's no different than someone being good at math- which I am not lol. Hey, we've all got to be good at something /wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />

Obviously you are not enlightened enough to 'see them' for what they are.

If only I had a dollar for every time I've heard something similar to this line… /biggrin.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

Thanks for sharing, JJB. I enjoyed your last post!