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TK? EMF?
April 21, 2011
2:47 am PDT
JJB-54
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Okay my "record" of being a PITA is even well known here where I live. I had a guy call me with a story, even now I'm not sure I believe it … and yet ….

Here is the case:

Jj I have this guy that claims he can turn RED traffic lights GREEn 15 – 20 seconds after he snaps his finger. He claims he focuses on the "control box" and speeds it up. I told him about you and that if we convience Jj – you've got something we need to look at.\

So I listened more and I said, "Okay – the gas is on me. My car and I want him to bring a Short Sleeve T and swim-trunks and submit to a serious pat-down. (He had already told the guy this would happen. I guess I'm more well known that I thought.)

I also stated that he would be wearing a Blind Fold and only one hand would be free to "snap his finger". He is right handed so I told him we would allow his left hand to be free.

We drove around to random lights and and sure enough – actually it was more like 10 second to just shy of 20 seconds after he snapped his finger. He even called me on several trick – I told him Clock Orientation where the control box was and he corrected me each time. Remember he is BLIND FOLDED. He had a black tie around and the Sleep Mask. Over kill – but I knew he could not see.

Even if we were driving up to the light and it had JUST turned RED for us – it very quickly turned 10-20 seconds turned Green.

Now our traffic lights are simply not that easy to predict. We did two tests a day for 6 days … and I picked random places between South Seattle – Auburn – to North Everett, Marysville and Eastside – Kirkland – Redmond – Bellevue.

Right now I'm not sure what is going on. Is it Telekinesis? Is it an awareness like an Empath where he can senses and controls the EMF?

I simply don't know … but well … this one has me scratching my head …. and there is not much hair left to 'scratch'

- Jj -



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April 21, 2011
3:51 am PDT
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I'd have to go with coincidence on this one. Are you completely sure he couldn't see out of the corner of the blind fold or something?

I just don't believe in this stuff, so it's hard for me to buy that he can change lights with a snap of his fingers.

Besides, if it really were TK, wouldn't the light change immediately? Why the delay?

Imagine there's no heaven, it's easy if you try.



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That which is unchallenged and exercised as habit rapidly becomes ritual.

When this occurs, dissent becomes an object of surprise, if not resentment.



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April 21, 2011
4:18 am PDT
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I'd have to go with coincidence on this one. Are you completely sure he couldn't see out of the corner of the blind fold or something?

Yes I am positive that he could not see. Remember he had a wrap around covered the side-view. Then added the Sleep Mask on top of that… No – I made sure that he could not see. I am 100% positive that he could not see.

I just don't believe in this stuff, so it's hard for me to buy that he can change lights with a snap of his fingers.

That was not explained clearly – that "snap of finger" was not the medium. That was just our signal to let us know he had 'done his thing'. What he claims he can do is – He "sees" and/or "senses" the Traffic Control Box and speeds it up.

Besides, if it really were TK, wouldn't the light change immediately? Why the delay?

That is an assumption that even I am guilty of .. we think it is suppose to be 'spontaneous' … that is Sci-Fi and special effects. I admit that I have had some exposure to what I think, the jury is still out, of what might have been TK …. but I'm not certain … as I said the "jury is still out" …

But when we look at this – we need seperate the "sci-fi" – "special effects" – from what might be the actual reality of it ….

- Jj -



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April 21, 2011
5:49 pm PDT
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Yes I am positive that he could not see. Remember he had a wrap around covered the side-view. Then added the Sleep Mask on top of that… No – I made sure that he could not see. I am 100% positive that he could not see.

That was not explained clearly – that "snap of finger" was not the medium. That was just our signal to let us know he had 'done his thing'. What he claims he can do is – He "sees" and/or "senses" the Traffic Control Box and speeds it up.

That is an assumption that even I am guilty of .. we think it is suppose to be 'spontaneous' … that is Sci-Fi and special effects. I admit that I have had some exposure to what I think, the jury is still out, of what might have been TK …. but I'm not certain … as I said the "jury is still out" …

But when we look at this – we need seperate the "sci-fi" – "special effects" – from what might be the actual reality of it ….

I don't know JJ, sounds pretty cool. I know I would like to have this guy in the car when I have to run errands. Hopefully, he will use his gift for good and not evil. I wonder though if he could have another trick up his sleeve (like folks stationed at various intersections using a device that can change the light- I heard there is something like that available now). Did you give him a really good (TSA style) pat down? Sounds like you are doing all the appropiate debunking so he could be the real deal. Keep us posted, very interesting with huge implications if it is true!

April 21, 2011
6:49 pm PDT
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I don't know JJ, sounds pretty cool. I know I would like to have this guy in the car when I have to run errands. Hopefully, he will use his gift for good and not evil. I wonder though if he could have another trick up his sleeve (like folks stationed at various intersections using a device that can change the light- I heard there is something like that available now). Did you give him a really good (TSA style) pat down? Sounds like you are doing all the appropiate debunking so he could be the real deal. Keep us posted, very interesting with huge implications if it is true!

As for 'stationed people' – Well unless he was reading my mind – I did random driving. He was blind-folded and had no telephone, Bluetooth or other devices on him. I did a no small pat down. Plus he wore a t-shirt and swim suit, before the "pat down".

I appreciate the questions and such. I really do, with no offense. I realize I am human and could over look something or miss something. This is why I posted this – to see if someone can trigger something I may have not thought of.

Again I posted this in another forum:

Thanks and ya .. he might be …???

- Jj -



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April 22, 2011
12:17 am PDT
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I wonder what else he could do if he set his mind to it.

If I think of anything that could help figure out how he does it, I will pipe up. I'm not in the debunking biz but this has got my cogs turning.

Thanks.

April 22, 2011
12:42 am PDT
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Two questions.

He even called me on several trick – I told him Clock Orientation where the control box was and he corrected me each time.

Can you explain what this means? Sorry, I just don't follow what this means.

Secondly, did you two ever get out of the car or was this always done inside the vehicle?

April 22, 2011
2:17 am PDT
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I wonder what else he could do if he set his mind to it.

If I think of anything that could help figure out how he does it, I will pipe up. I'm not in the debunking biz but this has got my cogs turning.

Thanks.

Truth – in my interview w/him it scared him when he began to realize what was happening. I am not sure what/if he can do – I think right now he is adjusting to the reality that this seems to be a fact …

The thing is – this guy who called me knows I'm not 'easy' – and no I am not. I hold people to the same standard I hold myself – nothing less and nothing more – actually I'm likely a lot easier on 'them' then I am on myself.

Our mutual friend told this guy – "If you pass Jj's testing – you can go home with "yes, this is real.." or "no, I'm not."

Yes he is real – what is/are the dynamics at play – that would take further testing and documentation …. to see if there is an answer.

- Jj -



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April 22, 2011
2:24 am PDT
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Two questions.

Can you explain what this means? Sorry, I just don't follow what this means.

Secondly, did you two ever get out of the car or was this always done inside the vehicle?

He is blind folded – He needs to know where the Traffic Light Control Box is. Thus I feel he 'sensed/felt', well what I will call an EMF connection.

Basically I would tell him the Control Box is at 12:00 – 1:00 – 3:00 – 6:00 etc …..

Now he did not tell me where the box was – just that it was not at the false clock directrion of the Control Box. The first time he 'called me on it' – I stopped the car and double checked the two blind-folds. (Ya I was wondering if he was cheating.) Nope his eyes were covered and no the ridder was not 'helping' …

We were driving – we never got out of the car. I was driving very random choices ….

Was I 'douped' … well if I was – I'd sure like to know how. He had no electronic devices on him or in his ear or hidden in the private areas. So again – if it was … then my hand to him, "well done!" ….

- Jj -



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April 22, 2011
3:59 pm PDT
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We were driving – we never got out of the car. I was driving very random choices ….

Was I 'douped' … well if I was – I'd sure like to know how. He had no electronic devices on him or in his ear or hidden in the private areas. So again – if it was … then my hand to him, "well done!" ….

It would be interesting to see if you pulled the car over to the side of the road, got out, and have him repeat his trick over and over and over on the same light.

Also, I've read that he wouldn't exactly need an electronic device to trigger the lights sensors, but rather have a small magnet attached to the bottom of your vehicle would do the trick every time.

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