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        	<title>ediaz65 on BLACK MASS</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Thank you all for the warm welcome and for the support and advice. I really appreciate it.</p>
<p>	KuriusKat- I am sorry that it happened to you too but I feel so relieved that someone else experienced what I have. I was feeling like I was the only one in the world who experienced this problem. Thank you for telling me I am not alone.</p>
<p>	I think you all are right about my daughter not being the direct cause of the activity but that some how this negative energy is feeding off of her and getting the strength to manifest. She is in eighth grade and she has been stressing out about all the tests and entrance exams she is going to have to take for the high schools she&#39;s interested in going to. </p>
<p>	I forgot to mention that in the past when I cleansed or smudged, I would ask it to leave. I would always say &#34; Whoever or whatever you are you must leave. You don&#39;t belong here because Love and God lives in this house&#34; and I would keep on saying it until the end of the cleansing or smudging. </p>
<p>	I am very open to the Feng Sui Master(will keep in mind), but I might start off with a priest. I am Roman Catholic and I think maybe because it&#39;s my religion it might have a stronger impact on the negative energy. </p>
<p>	I read somewhere that if your house is in disarray it might breed disarray(Feng Sui). So right now I am cleaning out everything in my home. Whatever I have not used in the last year I have donated to Good Will. I cleaned out all my closets and main living areas. I just have two bedrooms to go and once that it done I was thinking on having a priest come in and do a house blessing(fingers crossed).</p>
<p>	Milomilford-thanks for the idea. I am thinking of having a camcorder record every night while I sleep until I get something on tape(unless it&#39;s gone because of the priest). I will keep everyone posted on whats going on. </p>
<p>	Once again, thank you everyone. I have told two friends in the past on what was going on in my house. One changed the subject instantly and thee other looked at me as if I was talking out of the side of my neck. </p>
<p>	I have only this forum and you guys for advise and support and let me say thank you because you have made me feel I am not alone.</p>
<p>	P.S. I probably will be posting more stuff because I have many encounters with the paranormal since I was 4 yr old.</p>
<p>	Thank You and take care of yourselves.</p>
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	I believe you are on the right track with what you are doing. Remember, this is YOUR house and they are NOT welcome there.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 04:21:08 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>KuriusKat on BLACK MASS</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I think you all are right about my daughter not being the direct cause of the activity but that some how this negative energy is feeding off of her and getting the strength to manifest. She is in eighth grade and she has been stressing out about all the tests and entrance exams she is going to have to take for the high schools she&#39;s interested in going to. </p>
<p>	. . .    I might start off with a priest. I am Roman Catholic and I think maybe because it&#39;s my religion it might have a stronger impact on the negative energy.  </p>
<p>	I read somewhere that if your house is in disarray it might breed disarray(Feng Sui). So right now I am cleaning out everything in my home. Whatever I have not used in the last year I have donated to Good Will. I cleaned out all my closets and main living areas. I just have two bedrooms to go and once that it done I was thinking on having a priest come in and do a house blessing(fingers crossed).</p>
<p>	Milomilford-thanks for the idea. I am thinking of having a camcorder record every night while I sleep until I get something on tape(unless it&#39;s gone because of the priest). I will keep everyone posted on whats going on.   </p>
<p>	Once again, thank you everyone. I have told two friends in the past on what was going on in my house. One changed the subject instantly and thee other looked at me as if I was talking out of the side of my neck. </p>
<p>	I have only this forum and you guys for advise and support and let me say thank you because you have made me feel I am not alone.</p>
<p>	P.S. I probably will be posting more stuff because I have many encounters with the paranormal since I was 4 yr old.</p>
<p>	Thank You and take care of yourselves.</p>
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	It definitely sounds like your daughter&#39;s stress may be giving this spirit all the energy it needs in order to manifest enough to frighten you.   I hope you don&#39;t mind, but I am going to give you some advice because I went thru this not long ago myself and I remember how it feels.   IMHO, you shouldn&#39;t wait to get the Priest in.   The fact that this thing is coming into your bedroom and scaring you indicates that it isn&#39;t nice and since you are Roman Catholic you are going to feel so much much better after the priest blesses your house.   You shouldn&#39;t have to be fearful one minute longer than is absolutely necessary.   Do you think you&#39;ll have any trouble finding a priest who will do the blessing?   It&#39;s not like you&#39;re asking him for an exorcism or something like that, right?  I went with a feng shui expert because I&#39;m Methodist and my church doesn&#39;t really have a handle on the paranormal like the Catholic church does.</p>
<p>	I truly felt that a huge burden had been lifted from my shoulders after my house was cleansed.  I didn&#39;t realize how afraid I really was until it was all over.    Like you, I have had paranormal experiences since I was young but whatever was in my house that time was something new to me and very, very scary.   It felt so great to have an expert take charge.  I hope you get to that good feeling ASAP.    Believe me, you will feel so much better when the Priest leaves and so will your daughter.</p>
<p>	You could always get the priest to bless your house to get rid of the dark mass and then you can smudge it yourself after the house is clean to get the chi flowing again.   The clutter may have created some stale energy in the house but I truly don&#39;t think it could create the dark entity.   The feng shui lady told me to open all the doors and windows of my house between 11 am and 1 pm every day for a week after she left to let the bad energy out and to invite positive energy in, so you might try that after you smudge.   I still randomly open the house up for a few hours every day and it really does make the house feel spiritually fresher (and it smells great, too).</p>
<p>	I had to laugh about your friends&#39; reactions&#33;   People who haven&#39;t had experiences of their own either can&#39;t believe you or choose not to believe you because it scares them.   Even my husband who has had lots of experience over the years with the paranormal still balked at the idea that I saw a giant manta ray shaped shadow thing in the kitchen.   No one wants to believe that there are really scary things out there and who can blame them?</p>
<p>	Thank God for this site.   One of the ladies on here had actually seen something very similar.    What are the odds?   It totally changed my life to find out that someone else had seen that thing - it just seemed so crazy&#33;  When she told me that she had exactly the same impressions about it I could have cried.    It felt so good to have some reinforcement.</p>
<p>	The point I&#39;m trying to make in my usual long-winded way is that this is a great place to tell your stories because a lot of us have had the same experiences and even if we haven&#39;t we will still believe you.  Plus I for one really enjoy hearing other people&#39;s stories.  <img class="spSmiley" src="http://www.paranormalunderground.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":-)" class="spSmiley" /> </p>
<p>	God bless you and please keep us posted, okay?</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 04:16:46 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>ANIA425 on BLACK MASS</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Thank you all for the warm welcome and for the support and advice. I really appreciate it.</p>
<p>	KuriusKat- I am sorry that it happened to you too but I feel so relieved that someone else experienced what I have. I was feeling like I was the only one in the world who experienced this problem. Thank you for telling me I am not alone.</p>
<p>	I think you all are right about my daughter not being the direct cause of the activity but that some how this negative energy is feeding off of her and getting the strength to manifest. She is in eighth grade and she has been stressing out about all the tests and entrance exams she is going to have to take for the high schools she&#39;s interested in going to. </p>
<p>	I forgot to mention that in the past when I cleansed or smudged, I would ask it to leave. I would always say &#34; Whoever or whatever you are you must leave. You don&#39;t belong here because Love and God lives in this house&#34; and I would keep on saying it until the end of the cleansing or smudging.   </p>
<p>	I am very open to the Feng Sui Master(will keep in mind), but I might start off with a priest. I am Roman Catholic and I think maybe because it&#39;s my religion it might have a stronger impact on the negative energy.  </p>
<p>	I read somewhere that if your house is in disarray it might breed disarray(Feng Sui). So right now I am cleaning out everything in my home. Whatever I have not used in the last year I have donated to Good Will. I cleaned out all my closets and main living areas. I just have two bedrooms to go and once that it done I was thinking on having a priest come in and do a house blessing(fingers crossed).</p>
<p>	Milomilford-thanks for the idea. I am thinking of having a camcorder record every night while I sleep until I get something on tape(unless it&#39;s gone because of the priest). I will keep everyone posted on whats going on.   </p>
<p>	Once again, thank you everyone. I have told two friends in the past on what was going on in my house. One changed the subject instantly and thee other looked at me as if I was talking out of the side of my neck. </p>
<p>	I have only this forum and you guys for advise and support and let me say thank you because you have made me feel I am not alone.</p>
<p>	P.S. I probably will be posting more stuff because I have many encounters with the paranormal since I was 4 yr old.</p>
<p>	Thank You and take care of yourselves.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 03:12:47 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>Jilla08 on BLACK MASS</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Welcome Ania425&#33; As others have said, you&#39;ve definitely come to the right place. This is certainly an experience many of us have gone through. I agree with bringing a priest, fung shui master or even a native american spiritual leader in depending on your beliefs. I also agree that there is a possibility that whatever it is is being drawn to your home because of the &#34;teen energy&#34; from your daughter. It&#39;s always important to explore all possibilities, but what has been said here is a good place to start. </p>
<p>	Like KuriusKat said- just be sure whatever help you seek feels right to you. Many paranormal groups that label themselves professionals are really just a bunch of hacks. And understand that if this black mass is a particularly negative entity, it may take several attempts to fully get rid of it.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 16:06:35 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>milomilford on BLACK MASS</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello Ania425, it all sounds pretty scary.  I&#39;m glad that saying your prayers is helpful in getting you to sleep.  If this black mass is something that you can see with your own eyes, have you tried to photgraph it?  I wonder if you could capture an image of it with a camera.  Also, it might be helpful if you actually ask it to leave.  I believe in the power of positive thinking and if you are expecting it to get worse, it possible could.  Make the self fulfilling prophecy work in your favor here.  I would agree that you could have someone with the right skills, (priest, feng shui master, etc) come in and do their thing in addition to the smudging you are doing on your own.  Stay positive and remember it is your home&#33;  This could be a great learning experience for your daughter as well to teach her how to stand up for herself and take charge of her space.  Whether it is a spirit energy that is disrupting our day to day lives or a loser dude that wants to bring a good girl down. It is a good lesson to our children to expect respect and it will be given.  Don&#39;t expect it and it won&#39;t be given.  I think the advice from both KK and MK are right on the money.  Stay calm and seek out help from someone you have confidence in.  Keep us posted, good luck.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 12:32:36 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>MysticalKnight on BLACK MASS</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Hello everyone, I am a newbie and would like to share my experience. </p>
<p>	I and my daughter have been living in my current apartment for the last thirteen years. I have been experiencing paranormal activity since I moved in but it always has been very subtle. In the last 15 months it has been very active. When I go to sleep and the lights are off and my eyes adjust to the darkness of the room, I sometimes see this dark mass (kind of like a cloud) just hoovering at the top of my bedroom ceiling. It kind of reminds me of a rain cloud billowing. I get so scared that I just close my eyes and start to pray. I will open my eyes off and on to see if it is still there and it always is, so on the nights that it happens I end up praying myself to sleep. I have seen a black orb during the day and/or the night time that would just zoom by and I would just catch a glimpse of it in the corner of my eye. I constantly hear noises when I am trying to go to sleep. When I get up to see what it is I can&#39;t find the source and I always check to see if it is my cats but they are sleeping on the couch. </p>
<p>	What makes me more scared than anything is that my thirteen yr old daughter has admitted to me this week that the same things have been happening to her. The mass cloud, black orb, and hearing noises when she sleeps.</p>
<p>	I have two cats that are very lazy and not aggressive at all but sometimes not very often, one of them will get very freaked and start to hiss and growl at the ceiling. It has has happened to both of them but not at the same time.</p>
<p>	I have smudged my home with white sage and did a house cleansing with holy water and incense and both worked to drive out the negative energy temporarily. It would always come back within 6-8 months. When it did return it made it&#39;s presence known(I and my daughter would get severe headaches and doctors could not find a cause). I will keep smudging and doing house cleanings but I just hope it&#39;s not bidding its time and waiting to bring the negativity up a notch.</p>
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	Hi Ania, and welcome to Paranormal Underground.</p>
<p>	Thank you for sharing your experience. I do also wonder about the &#34;teen energy&#34; aspect of spirit activity/poltergeist activity when it ramps up like that. </p>
<p>	I don&#39;t really think teens create the activity per se, but maybe present something that is already there with some extra energy that &#34;it&#34; might need to manifest, etc.</p>
<p>	But my thoughts on that theory go back and forth.</p>
<p>	The cats hissing at the ceiling when nothing is there is definitely freaky to say the least.</p>
<p>	I also think that because this presence is frightening you, that you might consider asking a paranormal group to investigate or seek out some other type of help.</p>
<p>	As KuriusKat said, there will be people on this forum who will listen and might be able to offer help.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 04:21:51 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>KuriusKat on BLACK MASS</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Hello everyone, I am a newbie and would like to share my experience. </p>
<p>	I and my daughter have been living in my current apartment for the last thirteen years. I have been experiencing paranormal activity since I moved in but it always has been very subtle. In the last 15 months it has been very active. When I go to sleep and the lights are off and my eyes adjust to the darkness of the room, I sometimes see this dark mass (kind of like a cloud) just hoovering at the top of my bedroom ceiling. It kind of reminds me of a rain cloud billowing. I get so scared that I just close my eyes and start to pray. I will open my eyes off and on to see if it is still there and it always is, so on the nights that it happens I end up praying myself to sleep. I have seen a black orb during the day and/or the night time that would just zoom by and I would just catch a glimpse of it in the corner of my eye. I constantly hear noises when I am trying to go to sleep. When I get up to see what it is I can&#39;t find the source and I always check to see if it is my cats but they are sleeping on the couch. </p>
<p>	What makes me more scared than anything is that my thirteen yr old daughter has admitted to me this week that the same things have been happening to her. The mass cloud, black orb, and hearing noises when she sleeps.</p>
<p>	I have two cats that are very lazy and not aggressive at all but sometimes not very often, one of them will get very freaked and start to hiss and growl at the ceiling. It has has happened to both of them but not at the same time.</p>
<p>	I have smudged my home with white sage and did a house cleansing with holy water and incense and both worked to drive out the negative energy temporarily. It would always come back within 6-8 months. When it did return it made it&#39;s presence known(I and my daughter would get severe headaches and doctors could not find a cause). I will keep smudging and doing house cleanings but I just hope it&#39;s not bidding its time and waiting to bring the negativity up a notch.</p>
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	Welcome to the site.   I am a newbie myself and came to this forum with a very similar problem to yours.   There was a dark and very negative-feeling entity in my house and those of us who lived in the house were experiencing stomach disorders and headaches.    My house had been cleared successfully before I came here but I was desperate to find someone else who might have seen something similar.   Thank goodness I did find someone like that.    It really helped to know that I was not alone.</p>
<p>	First of all, it is interesting to note that your daughter is 13 and the problems began about 15 months ago.   Often activity begins or picks up when there is an adolescent girl in the house.    Some people say that the girl herself creates the activity via telekinetic energy but I don&#39;t believe that is always true.   I think that somehow a girl that age creates energy that attracts entities and that she acts as a power supply for them.    That&#39;s just my theory, but it is based on personal experience.</p>
<p>	Have you asked the entity to leave?  If you have and it still hangs around or if you are too afraid to do so then I recommend that you get some professional help.    Whatever feels comfortable to you is fine, whether it&#39;s a priest, a minister or a feng shui master.   Be sure it&#39;s someone that you have confidence in - the whole point is to feel like you are not alone and that someone knows what they are doing.   You don&#39;t want to poke the wasp&#39;s nest with a stick if you aren&#39;t confident that you can kill the wasps.</p>
<p>	In the end, you and your daughter should feel comfortable in your own home.   If your choices are to be alone and afraid or to bring in help, I&#39;d vote for getting help.   My experience with a feng shui master was excellent.   The whole point of feng shui is to create positive energy and remove negative energy so it made sense to me but do what feels right to you.</p>
<p>	There are many good people on this site with lots of good advice, so take heart.   You&#39;re not alone.  Feel free to contact me directly via private messaging if you like.   I am certainly no expert, but I&#39;ll be happy to talk to you about your experiences.</p>
<p>	Good luck&#33;    I&#39;ll be thinking of you.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 02:12:24 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>ANIA425 on BLACK MASS</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello everyone, I am a newbie and would like to share my experience. </p>
<p>	I and my daughter have been living in my current apartment for the last thirteen years. I have been experiencing paranormal activity since I moved in but it always has been very subtle. In the last 15 months it has been very active. When I go to sleep and the lights are off and my eyes adjust to the darkness of the room, I sometimes see this dark mass (kind of like a cloud) just hoovering at the top of my bedroom ceiling. It kind of reminds me of a rain cloud billowing. I get so scared that I just close my eyes and start to pray. I will open my eyes off and on to see if it is still there and it always is, so on the nights that it happens I end up praying myself to sleep. I have seen a black orb during the day and/or the night time that would just zoom by and I would just catch a glimpse of it in the corner of my eye. I constantly hear noises when I am trying to go to sleep. When I get up to see what it is I can&#39;t find the source and I always check to see if it is my cats but they are sleeping on the couch. </p>
<p>	What makes me more scared than anything is that my thirteen yr old daughter has admitted to me this week that the same things have been happening to her. The mass cloud, black orb, and hearing noises when she sleeps.</p>
<p>	I have two cats that are very lazy and not aggressive at all but sometimes not very often, one of them will get very freaked and start to hiss and growl at the ceiling. It has has happened to both of them but not at the same time.</p>
<p>	I have smudged my home with white sage and did a house cleansing with holy water and incense and both worked to drive out the negative energy temporarily. It would always come back within 6-8 months. When it did return it made it&#39;s presence known(I and my daughter would get severe headaches and doctors could not find a cause). I will keep smudging and doing house cleanings but I just hope it&#39;s not bidding its time and waiting to bring the negativity up a notch.</p>
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