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Theory about Innocents
April 18, 2009
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RyanNREMTP
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There are theories out there about what I would call Innocents that have a better ability to see ghosts. This means kids and animals can see spirits better than adults. No one knows why really. I tend to believe they are innocent of the world around them. They are still relying on instinct to make decisions whereas adults don't. Is it possible that the first time we commit a sin knowingly that we lose this ability?

What do you think?

April 18, 2009
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I think that they are closer to where they came from, and they haven't totally bought into life in the earthly plane yet.

April 18, 2009
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That's possible also. Do you know of any studies conducted between animals and the paranormal?

April 19, 2009
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That's possible also. Do you know of any studies conducted between animals and the paranormal?

I believe, also, that until children are taught that what they are seeing is not there, or that it is something to be frightened of, they are very open and receptive – true innocents. IMHO.

As far as animals, I know I have read about studies that have been conducted. I'll have to see if I can find them on the net. I feel with animals that they don't have the intelligence to understand that what they are seeing is not really there. When my pupster, Kelly, was still with us, he would go nuts chasing and barking at "invisible people" immediately after I returned from the battlefield. Or, he would sit at attention and look up like he was listening intently to someone. Then, after a day or two, he would go back to being his normal self. It became a joke to see his reaction after I came home from a night visit to the battlefield.

Now, he visits us in spirit. Every couple of months, we find his toys (which are stored in a bag in my closet) in various locations around the townhouse. Amazingly enough, they usually show up in the middle of the living room floor right after I have walked through.

April 19, 2009
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We interviewed (well Cheryl did) Carole Bowman, who is an expert in children and reincarnation. Some of those kids have very clear memories.

Very clear. When Tanner was little, I asked him who he was before he came to me and that boy spun a tale. So I do think kids are more tuned in.

April 20, 2009
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Well, in relation to past life recall, young children had clear "Memories" of their past lives, giving details that they couldn't read about or see on TV. Really amazing things. But … when they reached 5, 6, 7, most of those memories were gone or they couldn't recall them anymore.

I know that my son has had some paranormal encounters when he was younger. He is now 14 and he hasn't had anything happen in many years.

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April 20, 2009
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Doesn't it make you wonder how much of kids "imagination" – imaginary friends, etc. – might be a connection to something else? Or maybe kids' paranormal experiences are just a sign of their phenomenal imaginations. I wonder if there would be a way to sort all of that out scientifically.

April 21, 2009
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I'm an innocent and I don't see ghosts. /tongue.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='-_-' />

April 21, 2009
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I'm an innocent and I don't see ghosts. /tongue.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='-_-' />

Not with that avatar! /laugh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':P' />

April 21, 2009
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Sithy is so NOT innocent … are you dear? /wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='-_-' />

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April 26, 2009
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I'm an innocent and I don't see ghosts. /tongue.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':P' />

The bodies in the basement say different.

Didn't think i knew about that did ya.







2012? Seriously? I survived Y2K, 9/11, 6/6/6, 9/9/9, H1N1, & Swine Flu. BRING IT ON!!!

April 26, 2009
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Here's a random thought…

Has anyone done any research into the connection between "innocents seeing ghosts" and brain development? Like the undeveloped prefrontal cortex (which controls the brain’s more advanced functions/cognition -- prioritize thoughts, imagine, think in the abstract, anticipate consequences, plan, control impulses). Kids are always being described as more open and prone to using more emotional parts of the brain.

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April 26, 2009
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Here's a random thought…

Has anyone done any research into the connection between "innocents seeing ghosts" and brain development? Like the undeveloped prefrontal cortex (which controls the brain’s more advanced functions/cognition -- prioritize thoughts, imagine, think in the abstract, anticipate consequences, plan, control impulses). Kids are always being described as more open and prone to using more emotional parts of the brain.

Ooooo…good question!

April 27, 2009
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The bodies in the basement say different.

Didn't think i knew about that did ya.

Yes, the bodies of young, dark haired New Yorkers…he he, he he, hehehehe.

So Pynki, when am I coming to visit? /rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':(' />

April 27, 2009
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Ooooo…good question!

Ok, completely off topic. Is Peanut a schipperke?

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April 28, 2009
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In science, a theory is the highest form of hypothesis. It gains robustity by a preponderence of evidence. Just sayin'.

April 29, 2009
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Ok, completely off topic. Is Peanut a schipperke?

Nope – he looks like one, doesn't he? No – Peanut is a Pom/Yorkie mix. He's very tiny compared to a Schipperke. We had a Schipperke once – sweet dog.

April 29, 2009
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In science, a theory is the highest form of hypothesis. It gains robustity by a preponderence of evidence. Just sayin'.

So how do we test the hypothesis?

May 1, 2009
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So how do we test the hypothesis?

Advance a coherent thesis statement as to the properities of the phenomena one wants to examine. Once established and agreed upon, propose methodology, protocol and experiments to test the thesis. With proper controls of course.

May 1, 2009
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Advance a coherent thesis statement as to the properities of the phenomena one wants to examine. Once established and agreed upon, propose methodology, protocol and experiments to test the thesis. With proper controls of course.

That's it – I am not sure that there is a way to actually test this – too many unknown variables. You can study kids of different ages and see what happens – but there are so many other logical explanations – imagination, inability to distinguish fiction from reality, developmental issues….before one can have a huge hypothesis like "Kids are closer to the other side" or whatever, you have to first test little teeny tiny hypothesis.

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