I'm going to run an experiment the next time up we go up to Wellington (since it is pretty reliably active). I'm going to run a microphone comparison test with the H4n 4-channel recorder. Two channels will be the built-in electret condenser capacitive mics, which pick up changes in the electrostatic field as the sound vibrates a capacitor plate. Another channel will get a Shure cardioid dynamic mic, which picks up magnetic fluctuations as sound vibrates a voice coil (like a reverse speaker). The last channel will get the Tennessee Spirit Mic, that picks up transverse EM (scalar field) waves. If we get any solid EVPs, it should give me a basis for at least a rudimentary differential analysis. If all the audio mics (not the Spirit mic) pick up the same thing, then I know it's being projected as actual sound, If only one type picks up the signal, then I'll have a better idea of how the interaction occurs, and will move forward from there.

I added an experiment. Appropriately under the experiments forum this time. I'll get the hang of putting things in the right palce. lol

It also mentions my theory in short. It is sort of along the lines of what Loyd believes in that I believe that spirit voices may be getting directly imprinted to a tape rather than being caught by a microphone. I just believe it is different from Loyds reasons. I love it when different ideas are leaning in the same direction. It tends to make me think we may be on the right track. Don't much care who is correct as long as the end result benefits everyone. Right?

As time goes on and I post more. Everyone will find that I am a little of an outside the box type person. Maybe too way out for some. It is just that the things I have learned over the past 30 years just don't all go along with the mainstream of thought. As far as EVP I was a student of Raudive. NO, not literally but you know what I mean. I would suggest people read his book Breakthrough and glean from it what they can. Remembering that it was a long time ago and you should always take from someone what you can and adapt it to your style but never follow. Following only limits you to someone elses ideas and ideals.

Sorry, somtimes I talk too much.

There have been experiments that have recorded evp's in bell vacuum jars, and others without microphones, and yet others in faraday cages. I think that after getting successful evp in the above mentioned conditions, we can effectively rule out evp as being a soundwave phenomenon. Soundwaves cannot traverse a vacuum, nor can they affect a recording device without a microphone.

So here is an interesting one. Sometimes, evp's are audible to the person recording at the time of the recording. Does that mean that they aren't soundwave based only part of the time, and are at others? Or does it mean that the "audible" message was merely psychically imprinted in the percipient's mind during the event in the same way that Auerbach suggests that it is done on the recorder? Or, is it an electromagnetic event altering both the microphone coil of the recorder (electret hybrid or condenser hybrid) and our brainwaves simultaneously? It is enough of a leap to suppose that spirits have the ability to know the necessary mechanics to imprint this energy on a device, but is there also a working understanding that they must possess to do the same on brainwaves? That supposes a whole lot of prior knowledge on the communicating entity's part, but it might be as simple as our own mental process that we don't fully understand yet.

my brain hurts, lol

Andy

There have been experiments that have recorded evp's in bell vacuum jars, and others without microphones, and yet others in faraday cages. I think that after getting successful evp in the above mentioned conditions, we can effectively rule out evp as being a soundwave phenomenon. Soundwaves cannot traverse a vacuum, nor can they affect a recording device without a microphone.

So here is an interesting one. Sometimes, evp's are audible to the person recording at the time of the recording. Does that mean that they aren't soundwave based only part of the time, and are at others? Or does it mean that the "audible" message was merely psychically imprinted in the percipient's mind during the event in the same way that Auerbach suggests that it is done on the recorder? Or, is it an electromagnetic event altering both the microphone coil of the recorder (electret hybrid or condenser hybrid) and our brainwaves simultaneously? It is enough of a leap to suppose that spirits have the ability to know the necessary mechanics to imprint this energy on a device, but is there also a working understanding that they must possess to do the same on brainwaves? That supposes a whole lot of prior knowledge on the communicating entity's part, but it might be as simple as our own mental process that we don't fully understand yet.

my brain hurts, lol

Andy

I posted something similar to what I have here under experiments but thought it was also appropriate here. This is in answer to the above highlighted statement in red. In my opinion, if the popular belief is that spirits are just humans in different form and that they possess the same life force but in different form then they may give off electronic impulses. Spirit energy impulses (rather than physical sound) may be what is getting picked up directly by the mic-less recorder and the recorder is amplifying it in the heads and imprinting it on the tape. Not being imprinted directly to the tape.

Basically, spirit electronic impulses are bypassing the mic and picked up directly by the recorder not the tape. (Just like the recorder picks up the sound from the mic and transforms it into electronic impulses) So, simply put, it could be the electronic impulses put out by the spirit that is being picked up by the recorder and transforming it into magnetic impulses in the heads, then imprinting it on the tape. Which is also why sometimes you get sounds and sometimes words, etc. Sorry if this seems redundant and not clear. Sometimes I know what I am saying in my head but doesn’t come out in print the same way. lol

For the statement in green. As I said in my post under experiments. I mentioned pretty much the same thing when I talked about what a spirit was. I believe that everything we catch is by accident. That even if there is a consious intent on the side of the spirit to communicate. I don't see anything that even suggests that either of us are getting anything deliberately.

Basically for now I guess, everything is a crap shoot until we can repeatedly glean results from a controlled experiment.

It is my opinion that EVP's are nothing more than auditory matrixing………

Mundane sounds being 'filtered' by the brain to something that makes sense…….

Like being in the shower and hearing your phone ring -- the brain picks up a few random frequencies out of the 'white noise' and fills in the rest to make you 'hear' the phone…….

In my opinion you are correct and it is easy to check. If people take their "EVP's" and load them onto an audio program they will be able to see if they are making it up in their minds or actually hearing a voice.

If it is a voice then the audio program will show that by the fluctuating wave bands. If they are flat and you still think you hear a voice then it is basically auditory pareidolia.

In my opinion, EVP is exactly what it stands for and not Ghost Voices. It's a phenomena that is interpreted to be a voice.