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My theory on EVP.
August 12, 2009
3:28 am PDT
GhostBreakers
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I have adopted a theory of my own regarding EVP's. I still believe EVP's may be spirits but, that spirit voices are not physical sound but electronic impulses picked up by the recorder or tape directly, not by the microphone. Then transformed into sound.

Now hear me out. Simply put, microphones pick up changes in air pressure. The sound waves are picked up by a microphone which converts them into electronic impulses. These impulses are amplified in the recorder. Then pass through the heads which give out a magnetic impulse and then recorded on the passing tape. Now, roughly speaking on a normal recorder, a microphone is designed to pick up physical changes in air pressure and the sound waves are in a range closely comparable to the human ear.

This being the case, any spirit voice picked up by a microphone should be heard by everyone present when it was recorded. However, they almost never are????? My thought is that if they are heard then they are physical sound and probably not a spirit. Remember EVP is electronic voice phenomena not spirit voices. We can debate that later. LOL

I believe, that spirit voices may be the impulses made by the energy produced by an entity and not physical sounds emanating from the entity. So, maybe, in certain conditions it could be directly picked up by a recorder. Maybe the spirit voices we are catching are bypassing the microphone and maybe microphones are even interfering with capturing the voices or masking them because they pick up outside physical sounds and we are missing more than capturing.

Now, I am also experimenting using a tape recorder with a disconnected microphone in conjunction with a normal recorder. Some interesting results but nothing conclusive so far. However, I am confident I may be on the right track for the time being.

Now, as with any research we always come across some new ideas. I also have another theory based on the recording of sound that may show that physical sound from someone who has passed on may be a possibility. However, it is their voice, literally from the past and not their spirit voice. So it doesn't conflict with my other theory above. I'll save this for another forum or blog.

Lastly I will close with one of my favorite Einstein Quotes; If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?

August 12, 2009
3:38 am PDT
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I have adopted a theory of my own regarding EVP's. I still believe EVP's may be spirits but, that spirit voices are not physical sound but electronic impulses picked up by the recorder or tape directly, not by the microphone. Then transformed into sound.

Now hear me out. Simply put, microphones pick up changes in air pressure. The sound waves are picked up by a microphone which converts them into electronic impulses. These impulses are amplified in the recorder. Then pass through the heads which give out a magnetic impulse and then recorded on the passing tape. Now, roughly speaking on a normal recorder, a microphone is designed to pick up physical changes in air pressure and the sound waves are in a range closely comparable to the human ear.

This being the case, any spirit voice picked up by a microphone should be heard by everyone present when it was recorded. However, they almost never are????? My thought is that if they are heard then they are physical sound and probably not a spirit. Remember EVP is electronic voice phenomena not spirit voices. We can debate that later. LOL

I believe, that spirit voices may be the impulses made by the energy produced by an entity and not physical sounds emanating from the entity. So, maybe, in certain conditions it could be directly picked up by a recorder. Maybe the spirit voices we are catching are bypassing the microphone and maybe microphones are even interfering with capturing the voices or masking them because they pick up outside physical sounds and we are missing more than capturing.

Now, I am also experimenting using a tape recorder with a disconnected microphone in conjunction with a normal recorder. Some interesting results but nothing conclusive so far. However, I am confident I may be on the right track for the time being.

Now, as with any research we always come across some new ideas. I also have another theory based on the recording of sound that may show that physical sound from someone who has passed on may be a possibility. However, it is their voice, literally from the past and not their spirit voice. So it doesn't conflict with my other theory above. I'll save this for another forum or blog.

Lastly I will close with one of my favorite Einstein Quotes; If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?

GhostBreaker would it be ok to remove the film that is connected to a microphones coil to test this?

This could be very interesting. I'm sure there will still be residual sound from bumps and jostles……

but still very worth trying.

August 12, 2009
4:44 am PDT
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I have adopted a theory of my own regarding EVP's. I still believe EVP's may be spirits but, that spirit voices are not physical sound but electronic impulses picked up by the recorder or tape directly, not by the microphone. Then transformed into sound.

Now hear me out. Simply put, microphones pick up changes in air pressure. The sound waves are picked up by a microphone which converts them into electronic impulses. These impulses are amplified in the recorder. Then pass through the heads which give out a magnetic impulse and then recorded on the passing tape. Now, roughly speaking on a normal recorder, a microphone is designed to pick up physical changes in air pressure and the sound waves are in a range closely comparable to the human ear.

This being the case, any spirit voice picked up by a microphone should be heard by everyone present when it was recorded. However, they almost never are????? My thought is that if they are heard then they are physical sound and probably not a spirit. Remember EVP is electronic voice phenomena not spirit voices. We can debate that later. LOL

I believe, that spirit voices may be the impulses made by the energy produced by an entity and not physical sounds emanating from the entity. So, maybe, in certain conditions it could be directly picked up by a recorder. Maybe the spirit voices we are catching are bypassing the microphone and maybe microphones are even interfering with capturing the voices or masking them because they pick up outside physical sounds and we are missing more than capturing.

Now, I am also experimenting using a tape recorder with a disconnected microphone in conjunction with a normal recorder. Some interesting results but nothing conclusive so far. However, I am confident I may be on the right track for the time being.

Now, as with any research we always come across some new ideas. I also have another theory based on the recording of sound that may show that physical sound from someone who has passed on may be a possibility. However, it is their voice, literally from the past and not their spirit voice. So it doesn't conflict with my other theory above. I'll save this for another forum or blog.

Lastly I will close with one of my favorite Einstein Quotes; If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?

GB – Are you still using tape? I think most everyone else has gone digital, but analog tape does have some advantages, once you get past the atrocious S/N ratio. Makes me wonder if I should get a cheap videocassette recorder to run in parallel with the digital units (on which my wife has cornered the market – we have about half a dozen). Have you gotten better results with tape?

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August 12, 2009
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Check out http://www.spinvestigations.or…..ELATOR.pdf and http://www.spinvestigations.or…..roject.pdf . In fact, check out all the articles on this site, they are very informative and the science looks sound. I do disagree with the author on the fact that evp cannot be captured on condenser mics, as I have on occasion captured evp on electret/condenser mics. The author's late seventies experiments on recording evp's in a bell vacuum chamber I think should conclusively prove to all that this phenomenon is electromagnetic in nature (or possible fluctuations in scalar/gravity fields as some newer exotic theories state). I originally believed that it was a low-power modulated dc fields fluctuating with the mic inductor (dynamic mics or dynamic hybrids) but in a podcast on ghostlab where Beth, the host, conducted experiments with recorders with disabled mics. The recorders had a blank 1/8" jack inserted into the mic plug to disable the mic. The recorders were then placed in small faraday cages. Out of the many experiments repeated in this fashion, on recorder picked up a faint laugh in a cemetery. To recap, the recorders had their mic's disabled, no form of RF reception gear (raudive diode or similar) and were placed in an RF shielded faraday cage. There should have been absolutely nothing on that recorder. Unless it is a digital artifact from a previous recording (i guess it's possible), then there is a unique phenomenon at work.

So..yeah, theory should be sound /smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Laugh' />

Andy





September 27, 2010
2:41 pm PDT
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Hows the no mic experiment going? /unsure.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Laugh' />

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September 30, 2010
2:55 pm PDT
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Just a question… doesn't the human ear having a certain threshold of hearing and the recorder's ability to pick up sounds lower than that threshold – then play those same sounds at a level that can be heard kind of go against your theory?

I'm no tech geek, that's for sure – so please correct me if I am wrong about audio recorders being able to do this…

September 30, 2010
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Just a question… doesn't the human ear having a certain threshold of hearing and the recorder's ability to pick up sounds lower than that threshold – then play those same sounds at a level that can be heard kind of go against your theory?

I'm no tech geek, that's for sure – so please correct me if I am wrong about audio recorders being able to do this…

In my research not necessarily. However, you could get a recorder that does but a simple normal one speed TAPE recorder works pretty much the same as an ear. Obviously if you got a more sophisticated model with multiple speeds you probably could detect and be able to play back more sounds but not necessarily a spirit voice. (IMO EVP and spirit voices are different.)

There is also information out there that shows that there are sounds below the human ear's capability of picking up and that a recorder can pick it up but only heard if played back differently. Such was the case in the discovery of the low rumbling sound that Elephants make. That was discovered by mistake when a recording of Elephants was played back at a different speed.

So too it has been learned that low frequency sounds cannot be detected by the human ear but can be physically felt by the body. Referencing the experiment done at Eastern State.

A whole lot more to do and learn on this subject beyond just turning on a recorder hoping to catch something.

September 30, 2010
9:07 pm PDT
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I'll have to read up on the recorder's playback ability… the impression I got was that the recorder played back sounds at a level greater than they were originally (i.e. below the human threshold) – but that was a long time ago and I don't have that saved in my folder any longer. /sad.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />

You know I suppose a very easy way to just test this out is to get a dog whistle and a few random recorders (sorry, I haven't used an actual tape recorder in years!) and see what the results are when played back…

I think I recall that test at Eastern State – that was where they had some big speaker hidden and had people come into the room that didn't know it was there, right? Good experiment…

Oh – do you use some sort of vibration sensor with your experiment? The elephants and the test just brought that to mind…

November 6, 2010
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It has been hypothesized that EVP are in reality PK effects. If this were true, mics could be disconnected and EVP still recorded. Other physical movements in the environment would also be reasonable. If the PK is affecting the electronics, should not be required and in fact the recording media should not matter, since the influence is inter-stage. It may well be that sometimes disembodied voices and sounds are also produced by PK and indeed recorded but these are not EVP per se. The identity of the PK agent (likely a living person) need not be known, since research over the past 4 decades has shown there are distant as well as local PK agents, again, all living people. There is therefore little direct evidence that discarnates must be involved in EVP.

January 24, 2012
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When using a magnetic tape recorder to record EVP, don't rely on a used tape, use a new tape. The reason why I say this is because the erase head may not entirely erase prerecorded sounds. Also keep in mind that a tape recorder may act like a radio at times. Over 40 years ago, I used a reel to reel tape recorder to record music. I am going to guess that it was about 1969 and my neighbor was a ham radio operator. Sometimes his transmissions affected my television and my reel to reel recorder. I do know that his ham radio conversations would come through my recorder's speakers when my recorder was powered on but I don't recall if I recorded his conversations while recording music. While searching the internet on what may cause a tape recorder to pick up sounds that may be perceived to be an entity, I found this web link. I always look for possible explanations of the paranormal activities in my home such as a scientific explanation. http://www.mesaproje…anations-of-evp

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