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Battery Drain...
March 9, 2010
10:25 pm PDT
HeidiAnn67
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So what everyone is suggesting that we have zombie batteries. They die and come back to life.

well, mine did /laugh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Laugh' />

it really was strange, as i went to take the pic the little

battery indicator on the screen just drained down and the

camera went off. i couldnt get it back on. why? i dont know.

but it WAS funny haha

here is a pic from inside the house…not taken by me obviously haha

March 9, 2010
10:48 pm PDT
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The most educated person , on the PUG, as to batteries would have to be The Jybian. We should

ask him if there is any environment that can be duplicated in the lab that can cause rapid battery drain.

Can an overabundance of EM energy cause battery drain? A damp non-positively charged atmosphere?

I'm sure he might have a good idea as to a condition or environment that could drain perfectly good batteries.

If the batteries register colse to dead or electronic function ceases and then returns what is this cause from

an environment stand point, barring of course faulty equipment. I will drop him a note and see if he'll swing

by and look at the thread.

Or you can just say it here, and his wife will ask him to have a look. I hear she's still speaking to him…

March 9, 2010
10:55 pm PDT
pooperdooper
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Or you can just say it here, and his wife will ask him to have a look. I hear she's still speaking to him…

Yes she is and Happy Anniversary to you both!

Why is the word adversary so similiar to the word

anniversary or am I even spelling it right? Ad- and

Anni- now i have to look up the latin roots for these.

March 9, 2010
11:37 pm PDT
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The locations that we used the Tesla Coil, known to have battery drainage, we documented changes.

Prior to the coil, we had battery issues. When we turned the coil on, around the area the coil was energizing we had less drainage. When we went into another room, or area, it continued.

March 10, 2010
2:13 am PDT
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Something I have been working on but have not yet even formed a complete hypothesis on is that it is know that a positive ion field will discharge batteries. Strong positive ion fields are sometimes encountered at locations reported as haunted. Now I don't believe that ghosts create positive or negative ion fields by intent but I have a feeling that a positive ion field may be created as a byproduct or as an artifact during a manifestation or when a ghost is attempting to act on some object.

Positive ion fields are generated naturally by hot dry winds and things like TV and computer monitors also generate them. Another source of positive ions is radioactive decay of isotopes. Positive ions are also sort of generated in your home or office by the heating and air systems, because the metal cabinets and duct work in the heat or air process strips the negative ions out the air. So just the presence of positive ions would not be indicator of a ghost or haunting.

As a side note it is the negative ions you want since they are considered better for your health and mood.

March 10, 2010
4:20 am PDT
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The locations that we used the Tesla Coil, known to have battery drainage, we documented changes.

Prior to the coil, we had battery issues. When we turned the coil on, around the area the coil was energizing we had less drainage. When we went into another room, or area, it continued.

I find this really interesting. Have you repeated it??

March 11, 2010
4:47 am PDT
TheJybian
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Reality check on batteries…

They all basically work the same way, an electrochemical reaction is allowed to take place across a membrane, but only if electrons are allowed to flow from the cathode (-) to the anode(+) terminals. When the circuit path is closed, a current flow will happen, until the raw chemicals are depleted. The chemical reaction will generate a certain voltage, depending on the chemicals used. The weakening that slowly occurs is a result of the expended chemicals interfering with the reaction by impeding the electron exchange, essentially adding electrical resistance to the battery internals, which we see as a non-linear drop in output voltage (slow at first, rapid at the end).

Ideally, batteries would stay fully charged until we use them, but they all self-discharge over time. No battery has an infinite internal resistance, so it's "use it or lose it" for lack of a better term. For some common types of batteries, dropping the temperature reduces their ionic activity, which does slow down the self-drain somewhat. You have to warm the batteries up before you use them, or they'll perform about as well as the old Soviet economy. Some batteries (lithium) actually work better cold, but they're the exception, not the rule.

Rechargeable batteries are the worst for self-discharge, because their internal resistance has to be lower to allow practical recharging. That's one of the reasons why car batteries die so fast. Old-style NiCad batteries (early rechargeables) had a bad tendency to lose charging capacity if you didn't fully drain them before charging, and lithium batteries will effectively eat themselve if you leave them fully discharged for long. Either way, no rechargeable lasts for all that long, much to the eventual chagrin of Prius owners. Death by unintended acceleration is a convenient way to save you from the cost of replacing the battery pack. Pick your poison, eh…

Lithium-Nano-Phosphate is the best thing going, and the MIT geeks that invented them are well on their way to being billionaires, but even they have limitations.

As to the question of paranormal battery drainage, one dead battery means absolutely nothing. If several die suddenly, and at the same time and place, then you really have to start getting suspicious. What was so strange about what happened to Karen and I at Wellington wasn't just that several devices turned off at once, it was that a couple of them had simple slide switches that had to be physically moved. That still creeps me out a little.

I fart, therefore I art.
March 13, 2010
4:12 pm PDT
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Last year, we had an investigation where all of us had some battery issues in a short span of time. One guy even had a battery that was in his pocket heat up to the point he had to throw it out of his pocket (regular Duracell battery)…

But I've noticed certain members tend to always have a battery 'drain' issue, especially with certain pieces of equipment. I think a lot of it has to do more with that than anything paranormal…

March 13, 2010
4:55 pm PDT
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I have seen regular batteries heat up to a point of physically burning me among other problems when in regular use and not connected with an investigation.

I do notice a lot of people that have battery problems tend to promote the idea of paranormal interference or whatever. Which is fine but then they leave it at that. Personally I feel anything out of the ordinary on an investigation should be looked into further. Leaving any stone unturned falls short of a real investigation, IMO. Even things that seem insignificant at the time may prove valuable when paired to other information at a later time. At the very least, some small tidbit of information recorded just might just show me what to do or not to do the next time.

Scientifically this might help some people Batteries

March 13, 2010
5:52 pm PDT
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Last year, we had an investigation where all of us had some battery issues in a short span of time. One guy even had a battery that was in his pocket heat up to the point he had to throw it out of his pocket (regular Duracell battery)…

But I've noticed certain members tend to always have a battery 'drain' issue, especially with certain pieces of equipment. I think a lot of it has to do more with that than anything paranormal…

I've long believed that there are people who have a certain magnetism or something that make electronics malfunction. I don't know if it is body chemistry or what, but I've seen people who constantly have technology go haywire around them – including things like batteries and watches. I don't think it is paranormal. Just part of that person's unique physical makeup.

March 14, 2010
11:51 am PDT
ltamer
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I've seen too full-body apparitions but no battery drain & also no cold spots. Take it for what it's worth. /wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='B)' />

March 14, 2010
8:44 pm PDT
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I have never had any battery draining issues EXCEPT when I'm on the battlefield or at the hotel.

March 14, 2010
9:21 pm PDT
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I can see a lot of sense in Ghostlydesigns approach to the positive ions. However if there is 1. No radioactive decay of isotopes.

2. No hot, dry blowing wind. 3. No a/c or duct work in operation. 4. No active Cathode Ray tubes present. Then the existence of a

positive ion field, of sufficient strength to absorb the electrical energy being used by any device, could be an event that would require

further investigation. Whether it's a condition that allows contact with entities or whether it's a result of an entities action. Sounds as though the

next logical step is to develope a way to produce a positively charged ion field, with sufficient strength to absorb the power of battery powered

devices. At the very least an instrument that can detect and record a positive ion occurence making it visible to the human eye. With all this

having been said now, who wants to pony up an electronics lab and a research grant to develope these instruments for paranormal research?

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