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Hitler's Ghost
January 10, 2010
10:55 pm PDT
RyanNREMTP
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Good, then it wasn't sleep deprivation that I sometimes suffer from.

January 11, 2010
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It is certain that there are half-nephews of Hitler. Hitler's half brother, Alois, had more than one family – one is in

England. I'm not sure about his full sister Paula. She may have had children – if so, there are definite nephews/nieces around.

January 12, 2010
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Well, I am speaking in Paranormal terms for the most part.

Everything you speak of is a physical condition of the living not spiritual or paranormal. So even being wired differently means they grew up physically changing and becoming evil. You mentioned GOD. Do you think the religious believe GOD created them evil?

I've been thinking about this the last couple of days and trying to determine whether or not I contradicted myself. I believe that there is some type of "higher power" as it were. However, what I have a hard time believing is that a "higher power" would intentionally create someone as evil as Hitler or a serial killer. Then, that might suggest that there is no higher power – I'm not quite sure how to reconcile the two within my own beliefs. In regards to the being wired differently: If I get some time over the weekend, I'll see if I can find the article/book I was thinking of.

I think it may be something like why some people think spirits speak different languages. They don't but the living think they do. I think it may be the same principal here.

As far as what good could come out of it? There are still a lot of unanswered facts about atrocities committed by these people. A lot of missing victims, not to mention all the treasures they looted that disappeared and so on. There is a lot of good that could come out of being able to contact these type people. That's just my opinion however.

I see what you're saying – if it were possible, one would hope that the person(s) had some type of transformation after death that would make them reveal such information. But still – knowing how evil they were in life, I wouldn't want to give them any opening on any plane. Let them continue to roast!

January 12, 2010
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I personally dont expect behavior much different of spirits then of humans which in all logical thought doesn't make sense that Hitler if the story was true would haunt that place in S.America.

I would assume that if anything he would haunt the eagles nest in Lower Bavaria near Garmisch. This place was somewhat of a throned Castle for him where his generals spent time feeding him lines of fantasy while he explored the darker side of Eva Brown literally.

January 12, 2010
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oh if before you pack your bags and head out that way, BEEN THERE !! DONE THAT !! /rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />

January 12, 2010
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I've been thinking about this the last couple of days and trying to determine whether or not I contradicted myself. I believe that there is some type of "higher power" as it were. However, what I have a hard time believing is that a "higher power" would intentionally create someone as evil as Hitler or a serial killer. Then, that might suggest that there is no higher power – I'm not quite sure how to reconcile the two within my own beliefs. In regards to the being wired differently: If I get some time over the weekend, I'll see if I can find the article/book I was thinking of.

Was it Most Evil, on Investigative Discovery? Michael Stone, forensic phychiatrist profiled serial killers and psychopaths. He researched their methods and motives and used a scale 1-10 to rate them, on their level of evil. He covered all of the famous serial killers, Bundy, Dahmer, etc.

He touched on these types of people may be born evil, no guilt, or feeling for wrong doing. These types rated a 10, on the scale of most evil,and appeared to be wired differently.

January 12, 2010
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ahh such a touchy feelly topic, but to help understand what a higher power would and would not do, you have to kinda read the first Higher Power Book which would be the old testament preferably the Torah. That will give you alittle insight on exactly where bad stuff comes from. Everything else just hints at it.

Friends please sign up for a course in theology even if you do not believe, it helps understand alot. To help yourself agree to such, every major archeologist and historian has a copy of these on their shelf

January 12, 2010
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Again, this episode I think was just a ploy by Pilgrim to gain viewership…what better way to kick off the next series then with something controversial. The episdoe would have been just fine if they left all references about Hitler out….and did a "normal" investigation…but alas, ratings are needed so let the controversy begin…

January 12, 2010
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Was it Most Evil, on Investigative Discovery? Michael Stone, forensic phychiatrist profiled serial killers and psychopaths. He researched their methods and motives and used a scale 1-10 to rate them, on their level of evil. He covered all of the famous serial killers, Bundy, Dahmer, etc.

He touched on these types of people may be born evil, no guilt, or feeling for wrong doing. These types rated a 10, on the scale of most evil,and appeared to be wired differently.

I don't think so – this was a study with CT scans and the like – chemical based as opposed to psych profiling – I think…it's gonna drive me crazy until I remember what it was!

January 13, 2010
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I don't think so – this was a study with CT scans and the like – chemical based as opposed to psych profiling – I think…it's gonna drive me crazy until I remember what it was!

Awe, I hate when that happens to me, must be why I'm crazy. /tongue.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Laugh' />

January 14, 2010
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I've been thinking about this the last couple of days and trying to determine whether or not I contradicted myself. I believe that there is some type of "higher power" as it were. However, what I have a hard time believing is that a "higher power" would intentionally create someone as evil as Hitler or a serial killer. Then, that might suggest that there is no higher power – I'm not quite sure how to reconcile the two within my own beliefs. In regards to the being wired differently: If I get some time over the weekend, I'll see if I can find the article/book I was thinking of.

Of course that is only if you believe the "Higher Power" as defined by tbe Judeo/Christian religion. 90% of the rest of the world does not believe in this religion. People are what they are. Whether one believes in a God that set things in motion and lets them take their course or you believe in an "All Controlling" God is your decision. It has NOTHING to do with Nazi Germany. It Happened. And Your "All Controlling" God let this happen. You have to reconcile this. Not me. I do not believe in an "All Controlling" God. My "God" did not "Let" this happen. The spirit I believe in has set the wheels in motion and the beings on the Earth must make their own way. We have failed in many respects. But we have triumphed as well.

Will we triumph? We may. But recent happenings say otherwise. It is my belief that those of you who are "waiting" for your "Almighty God" to send a message are the very people who are preventing solutions to our very present problems. "GOD" is not going to solve our problems. WE are going to solve our problems. The Almighty SPIRIT has endowed us with the ability to withstand evil, danger, adversity, tragedy, grief….

You ask why the Almighty Spirit has "allowed" evil. Well, in my belief, the Almighty gave us everything. Some people say that there is so much EVIL in history. But then…there has been so much WONDER and knowledge and great joy – so much art and music and….

Hitler was F**king evil. But unfortunately, he was only one of many before him.

But Hitler was only one. We survive. We will survive beyond him. Isn't that a triumph in itself?

HUZZAH FOR US!!!!

January 14, 2010
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good post Lillith Evil was not create by God, I try to tell many of Paranormal adventurers to take a course in theology because it helps answer many questions in this field. Knowing the basics of this specific religion clears much up on how and why.

A good reason to take such courses without feeling of being succumbed to a cult is that Every Great Historian and archeologist keeps a few sets of Bibles on their shelves. Use it as a scientific tool if thats what it takes.

January 14, 2010
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good post Lillith Evil was not create by God, I try to tell many of Paranormal adventurers to take a course in theology because it helps answer many questions in this field. Knowing the basics of this specific religion clears much up on how and why.

A good reason to take such courses without feeling of being succumbed to a cult is that Every Great Historian and archeologist keeps a few sets of Bibles on their shelves. Use it as a scientific tool if thats what it takes.

i'm quite certain that many of us here are familiar with the bible, theology etc.

bells go off in my head when beliefs are posted as facts.

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January 14, 2010
5:26 am PDT
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good post Lillith Evil was not create by God, I try to tell many of Paranormal adventurers to take a course in theology because it helps answer many questions in this field. Knowing the basics of this specific religion clears much up on how and why.

A good reason to take such courses without feeling of being succumbed to a cult is that Every Great Historian and archeologist keeps a few sets of Bibles on their shelves. Use it as a scientific tool if thats what it takes.

How could theology answer questions in the paranormal field? I lean towards the thinking of the paranormal may be some type of energy, but what do I know.

It's just a thought I have, nothing factual. For me, religion just confuses the paranormal more, or may promote it.

I think the paranormal is possible, but I want to remain open minded as it could be anything. Maybe not an afterlife so to speak.

I'm looking for the facts and not a hodge podge of many belief systems.

January 14, 2010
7:08 am PDT
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so exactly what fact are you looking for?

The very fact that you are doing this is considered hodge podge by main stream science.

God, religion, spirits for what ever that word means, is impossible. Ghosts? show me proof. Dont show me some smudge on a photo, not some noise a mouse could make.

I am an open minded kinda guy.

Show me scientific evidence that some professor can pull apart and tell me what it is made of. Lets forget that I ever mentioned religion or theology. Lets forget one of the post contains Evil in it. We from now on can call this word just BAD.

Now define exactly what are we looking for? I would like to know the aspects in detail from your point of views.

January 14, 2010
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Say there is a God, and God created all. Then it stands to reason God also created evil as well as good. Maybe God is not this goody, goody everyone makes God out to be, maybe God is more neutral, and is more about the balance, yin and yang. Maybe that is where the concept of karma came from, and karma is supposed to balance out in the end.

Kind of like the force. /unsure.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />

Which strangely reminds me of one of my favorite movie quotes:

“Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no substitute for a good blaster at your side.”

~Han Solo, Star Wars, Episode IV: A New Hope

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January 14, 2010
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Well again but I am told I am wrong about this but the Bible or book I shouldn't refer to doesn't describe God as good, or goody goody. Thats a another book about this guy from Bethlehem, long haired hippy dude.

That God person according to that book didn't take much squat from anyone. This was a guy that commanded Legions of flying creatures known as Angels who were extremely violent in nature.

Evil is the path created by one of those Angels who just felt he was too good to hang out with those other flying things. Somewhere along the lines he didn't like the idea that you and I existed as well. So when this flying thing got his butt un-assed from his position but left alive. Well theres alot more to that fable but if you would just grab a few books pertaining to those things and just used them solely as a possible reference, it will indeed make sense with out you needing to convert your ideology. They are just books with words in them. Its only what you make of them.

January 14, 2010
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why do you keep assuming that none of us are familiar with the bible or other books on theology and/or are afraid of them, rage??

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January 14, 2010
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I haven't your just perceiving it that way because I didn't quote the poster

January 14, 2010
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good post Lillith Evil was not create by God, I try to tell many of Paranormal adventurers to take a course in theology because it helps answer many questions in this field. Knowing the basics of this specific religion clears much up on how and why.

A good reason to take such courses without feeling of being succumbed to a cult is that Every Great Historian and archeologist keeps a few sets of Bibles on their shelves. Use it as a scientific tool if thats what it takes.

Well theres alot more to that fable but if you would just grab a few books pertaining to those things and just used them solely as a possible reference, it will indeed make sense with out you needing to convert your ideology. They are just books with words in them. Its only what you make of them.

these posts are what i am basing my perceptions on.

"We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of dreams." - Willy Wonka (Gene Wilder)




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