I recently spent a weekend at a lovely haunted B&B. It is generally known this inn is haunted, but the owner prefers the fact isn’t advertised. In the past, she’s had issues with thrill seekers coming uninvited to her property and running amok, disrespecting the gentle spirits who live there (she calls them permanents), as well as her living guests. One particularly busy weekend, she reports, a paranormal team came into the hotel without permission and scattered like roaches. They knocked on guests’ doors and entered areas restricted to guests and the public. The innkeeper was forced to chase them all down and remove them from her property.

In another case, someone shared a Facebook status of a paranormal team bragging about how many times they’d been arrested or removed from private property with police intervention.

These are a few of the many stories I hear about paranormal thrill seekers thinking only of what they want and very little about the locations, spirits, and living people they violate with their antics. I can’t believe I even have to say this, but apparently I do. Things like this are not okay. Ever.

If you’re part of a team who respectfully requests permission to investigate haunted locations, stays away from places that don’t grant permission, and ensures members are on their best behavior whenever you investigate a property, you might be surprised to hear all the stories people have told me about just how disrespectful some paranormal thrill seekers can be. Heck – I even have my own story, in which I allowed a paranormal group to come investigate my house. While some of the members of the team were, indeed, very serious and careful investigators, others apparently had joined the team as a way of satisfying their craving for a paranormal thrill. When they left, many went to a nearby restaurant and talked about my house to the staff there. I live in a very small town where it doesn’t take long for word to get around, so the story came back to me quickly. Not only that, but when the team left, a Buddha statue I kept in my yard went missing. I never saw it again.

I understand the curiosity that drives many paranormal thrill seekers. I can even relate to the eagerness behind that curiosity. It can be exciting to interact with spirits, and haunted locations can be spooky fun. Here’s the problem I see with paranormal investigation as a form of thill seeking, however. This type of behavior may not just be annoying to the living (and sometimes flat-out illegal). It can also be harmful to the dead.

I am empathic. I feel the emotions of human souls (both living and dead) viscerally as if they are my own. I recently encountered the spirit of a very wounded woman who had been through some horrible things in her life at the hands of her fellow humans. Although she is long dead, her wounds remain fresh, raw, and emotionally painful. In her presence, all I wanted to do was hold myself, rock, and cry. Not just cry – but wail. As I described it to someone else, the only word that comes close to what the spirit was doing was keening (definition: intense, mournful wailing after a death – often at a funeral or wake). The extent of her grief and pain was overwhelming.

Now, imagine this poor, fragile soul in need of kindness, caring, and compassion (which she is getting from the current property owner, by the way) experiences a group of living thrill seekers, racing through uninvited. They aren’t thinking of her. It is likely they aren’t even aware of her presence, fragility, and angst. As they evade being captured for their trespass, the thrill seekers try to elicit quick reactions from spirits, probably knowing their time at the location is limited. They make threats, swear, and behave belligerently in order to provoke a quick response from any spirits who might be present.

To read the conclusion to Karen’s article, please visit: http://www.sspri.org/blog/unin.....ted-guests.

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I found this link about a tennis shoe that is very similar to my boot being thrown incident.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/.....d94240/pg1
"Last night while sleeping, I was awoken by a "crash" in my Living Room..........When I woke up I found that my (1) tennis shoe was 30 feet from where I always keep them, in a different room!"

Some good paranormal reading can be found here: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/.....1/srtpages

MysticalKnight said
Hi Nightwatcher! (I wanted to let you know, that you can quote someone's post by clicking on the "quote" button on the upper righthand side of any post. Just a helpful hint in case you want to make use of that feature.)

You have some great questions. I was treating the old sewing machine as an end table with my alarm clock sitting on it. The machine was not plugged in, just the alarm clock. Chad later took some EFM readings and there was a crazy amount of EMF around the alarm clock. I am not sure. Can high EMF make things vibrate? It was almost like an energy building up and then bursting out and rattling the blinds in a sweeping motion.

The sewing machine was not touching the blinds. It was at least a good foot away, possibly farther, from the blinds.

That sewing machine is now in storage so haven't seen that happen after those times I mentioned above. I did buy the sewing machine at an estate sale next door to where I had lived at the time, after my neighbor had passed away.

I have no idea what caused it. There could be an explanation for it, but it did seem paranormal, at least in the sense that "nothing" visible or even explainable seemed to be causing the activity.

And, wow, the boot on the other side of the room? The only question I have on that one ... did you have pets???

Hello MysticalKnight, I was aware of the quote feature and I have used it in the past here on PUG. I do post comments on other web sites also and I have some old habits of quoting people. I will use the PUG quoting feature and will "cut" some information from the original quote to focus more in on what it is that I am replying to. I know that running a web site costs money and I certainly am no expert about web sites. I didn't want to use up too much "bandwidth" of the PUG web site.

I have had cats off and on throughout my life. I did have a cat at the time of the boot incident. If I had a dog, then I could have dismissed the paranormal idea that my boot was thrown. A dog could have drug my boot across the floor and the loud boom could have been due to the house. Houses make noise throughout the season. Materials expand and shrink during the seasons. Think earthquakes. The Earth's crust is always in motion and makes no noise or tremors. Then all of a sudden, the forces free themselves and one feels and hears the tremors and quakes. Does that make sense? I try to keep my comments brief and the readers can use the internet to find out more information.

I have no explanation for the boot incident. The boot was heavy and my cat at the time would not have the strength to pull it a few inches let alone several feet. I don't have an explanation about the sewing machine at this time.

I am kind of new to the paranormal investigation groups, devices and their methods. EMF to me means "electromagnetic fields" and there are also "electromagnetic forces" that could explain some paranormal events. You young people are so lucky to have the internet at your finger tips. I will do a lot of reading about electromagnetic fields and electromagnetic forces and share what I find out here on PUG.

Are those EMF detectors expensive? Could a cheaper model be bought so that I can investigate my own home? I do know that there are entities in my home who are friendly but with some rare exceptions. I recently bought some new micro-cassettes for my analog voice activated micro-cassette recorder. I will turn it on when I leave the house and will move it to the living room when I go to sleep to see what I can capture. It does have a time lag so it will not capture a sharp noise or single word. I read that the digital voice recorders also have a time lag. As time permits, I will also be taking random photos of everything in my house both day and night with a digital camera. Since film is not used in a digital camera, I will be able to take a couple hundred photos each week to see if the camera captured some questionable things. I will dismiss all orbs as dust in the air. If something shows up, I will share here on PUG. I welcome all suggestions about paranormal investigative devices (cheap) and methods. I do have an infrared thermometer (with laser pointer) that I used during my working years checking the temperatures of steam and condensate pipes and machine bearings. Currently I use it for my home heating experiments , radiant barriers and home cooking. Would this infrared thermometer be useful as a paranormal investigation device? It isn't a camera but shows temps in numbers.

Nightwatcher said

"Something that happened in our bedroom was this … laying in bed, as I was falling asleep, the sewing machine, which is an oldstyle machine that collapses down under the tabletop started shaking violently. I sit up and look at it, and it continued to shake very hard for at least a minute, with the contents on top (alarm clock, pictures, crystal candle holders, etc.) shake as well........OK, so fast-forward to Chad in the bedroom alone. He had the same exact occurrence, except the blinds didn't move. Then some time after that, Chad and I were talking in our bedroom, lying on the bed. Same thing happened again, except for the blinds moving." (posted by MysticalKnight).

Was the sewing machine electric and was the cord plugged into the socket? If electric, could the sewing machine turned itself on and the movement caused the sewing cabinet to shake or vibrate? Was the sewing cabinet touching the blinds or if the sewing machine electric motor's fan (cooling the motor) cause air movement to the blinds? Not saying that your sewing machine shaking violently was not a paranormal event but trying to find a science explanation. Do you still have that sewing machine and has it shook since you posted this?

I came home one night and put my boots next to my closet in my bedroom. Later while sleeping or trying to sleep, I heard a big BOOM like something fell in my bedroom. I got up and turned on the lights to see what fell. One of my boots was missing and I found it against the opposite wall. It appears that something threw that boot across the room and into that wall. That was the cause of the big boom. I could find no science to explain that boot being on the opposite side of the room. It wasn't powered by electricity or compressed air.

Hi Nightwatcher! (I wanted to let you know, that you can quote someone's post by clicking on the "quote" button on the upper righthand side of any post. Just a helpful hint in case you want to make use of that feature.)

You have some great questions. I was treating the old sewing machine as an end table with my alarm clock sitting on it. The machine was not plugged in, just the alarm clock. Chad later took some EFM readings and there was a crazy amount of EMF around the alarm clock. I am not sure. Can high EMF make things vibrate? It was almost like an energy building up and then bursting out and rattling the blinds in a sweeping motion.

The sewing machine was not touching the blinds. It was at least a good foot away, possibly farther, from the blinds.

That sewing machine is now in storage so haven't seen that happen after those times I mentioned above. I did buy the sewing machine at an estate sale next door to where I had lived at the time, after my neighbor had passed away.

I have no idea what caused it. There could be an explanation for it, but it did seem paranormal, at least in the sense that "nothing" visible or even explainable seemed to be causing the activity.

And, wow, the boot on the other side of the room? The only question I have on that one ... did you have pets???

Was the sewing machine electric and was the cord plugged into the socket? If electric, could the sewing machine turned itself on and the movement caused the sewing cabinet to shake or vibrate? Was the sewing cabinet touching the blinds or if the sewing machine electric motor's fan (cooling the motor) cause air movement to the blinds? Not saying that your sewing machine shaking violently was not a paranormal event but trying to find a science explanation. Do you still have that sewing machine and has it shook since you posted this?

I came home one night and put my boots next to my closet in my bedroom. Later while sleeping or trying to sleep, I heard a big BOOM like something fell in my bedroom. I got up and turned on the lights to see what fell. One of my boots was missing and I found it against the opposite wall. It appears that something threw that boot across the room and into that wall. That was the cause of the big boom. I could find no science to explain that boot being on the opposite side of the room. It wasn't powered by electricity or compressed air.

I had the same kind of experience. My garage is attached to my house and the door leading to the garage is made of steel with probably a wood core. At that time, my computer was located in the kitchen-dining area and a couple of feet or so from that steel door. One evening as I was using the computer, somebody or something banged on that door, as if a man was using his fist to bang on that door. It wasn't a rap like using one's knuckles as normally is done when knocking on a door but like BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM like a man using his fist. It scared the heck out of me. I thought that an intruder was in my garage. It was already dark outside.

My son lived with me at that time and I asked him if he left the garage door open. He said that he closed it. Long story short, I got out my gun and told my son to go outside and count to 10 or something like at and I was going to turn on the light switch on for the lights in my garage. The garage door had windows in it, so if any intruder was there, my son would see some movement. I opened the garage door by remote from a safe distance but nobody was there. I checked under the car and crawl space and found nothing. The was no science that could explain the banging on the door.

The next day, I read the death notice of a lady that I used to date.

One of the local magazines did an interview with another of the other local paranormal groups. At the end of the article they listed the three groups here in McLennan County, mine was listed along with my cell phone number and website. I've already had a phone call and noticed an increase of visitors to my website. I didn't even know about the article until I was looking through it about to throw it away.

No EVPs?

Also we have another investigation this Saturday night. This might be a long term investigation, as in we will probably leave the cameras up and running for about a week. Hopefully I will be able to get the internet webcam working so it can be watched over the internet as well.

In case you are wondering about our change in mission, just see my other thread about it. It's all there.

Something else I have been thinking of is with me being the Fire Chief here in my town I have access to a thermal imaging camera. I will only use it for cases in my town because it is still in service but I don't think it should be too much of an issue. We'll see how that works out.

So anyway back to the upcoming investigation. We are keeping it simple this time with just cameras and DARs. Nothing fancy is planned. I'll post more as it comes available.

And I'm not releasing what type of case or where it is on purpose. But thanks for wondering.