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Olde Gin House
August 18, 2009
9:43 pm PDT
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I think I hear something that sounds like footsteps, but I agree with Cheryl. One is louder – at the end. It almost sounds like a door slamming.

August 18, 2009
11:24 pm PDT
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Any doors or windows that could be banging?

The doors and windows were secured by myself and one of the managers before

nightfall as well as the exterior doors. The wind was nill that evening as TS Ana was

approaching the island slowly from the East.

August 18, 2009
11:27 pm PDT
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Thanks for sharing your evidence with us.

Can you post the known walking sound as a .wav file for side-by-side comparison?

I will post the "known" walking file tomorrow in .wav format. It is quite a bit louder

than the footstep recording.

August 18, 2009
11:36 pm PDT
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I think I hear something that sounds like footsteps, but I agree with Cheryl. One is louder – at the end. It almost sounds like a door slamming.

I will play it back again on the home system again using Audacity

this evening. The only door I can think of that could make a sound

similiar to this is on the office. I will try to reset the recorder and do some

test closes with that door to see if they are similiar. All the other doors are 2"

thick solid wood and would make a completely different sound.

August 19, 2009
6:48 am PDT
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At the Olde Gin House right now setting up equipment. Sony Night Shot

keeps shutting off and it is powered by a wall outlet. I hope to record some

really good stuff in the next 4 or so hours. I'll review everything tomorrow

in the AM and I'll post anything interesting on Monday.

I had almost the same thing happen at Wellington on Sunday. My new HD HandyCam (with the mongo battery) shut itself off in the middle of an EMF spike, despite having 5 hours of charge remaining. I was able to restart it instantly, but that wasn't the weird part. I had two IR LED lights running, each with its own battery and slide switch. Both of them also shut down with the HandyCam. We had continuous electronic anomalies on the way home, until Karen asked it to stop, and they all just ceased and everything immediately started working right again. That is why I now count myself among the believers.

I take EVPs with a grain of salt, because I know that the mind is susceptible to patterns that may not actually exist, but when a bunch of new electronics all start acting possessed, I know that something is going on.

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August 19, 2009
2:49 pm PDT
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Thanks for sharing your evidence with us.

Can you post the known walking sound as a .wav file for side-by-side comparison?

Here is the known walking sound, that I made half a hour before the anomaly,after setting

the DAR upstairs in the loft. The file is the sound of me leaving the loft.

August 19, 2009
2:58 pm PDT
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I had almost the same thing happen at Wellington on Sunday. My new HD HandyCam (with the mongo battery) shut itself off in the middle of an EMF spike, despite having 5 hours of charge remaining. I was able to restart it instantly, but that wasn't the weird part. I had two IR LED lights running, each with its own battery and slide switch. Both of them also shut down with the HandyCam. We had continuous electronic anomalies on the way home, until Karen asked it to stop, and they all just ceased and everything immediately started working right again. That is why I now count myself among the believers.

I take EVPs with a grain of salt, because I know that the mind is susceptible to patterns that may not actually exist, but when a bunch of new electronics all start acting possessed, I know that something is going on.

I'm still at a loss on the Sony not working and shutting off while connected to the wall outlet. I would understand on battery but not

while plugged into a 110 outlet. Each time I checked the connection and it was fine. I didn't have as good an indicator as two power sources

failing simultaneously! Was anyone able to capture your power anomaly on another DVR during the EMF spike? It only gets better when you "know" there is something else. You can't prove it , but, now you personally know.

August 20, 2009
1:01 am PDT
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I'm still at a loss on the Sony not working and shutting off while connected to the wall outlet. I would understand on battery but not

while plugged into a 110 outlet. Each time I checked the connection and it was fine. I didn't have as good an indicator as two power sources

failing simultaneously! Was anyone able to capture your power anomaly on another DVR during the EMF spike? It only gets better when you "know" there is something else. You can't prove it , but, now you personally know.

If there's a surge some power supplies will shut down for protection. If its caused by an EMF spike of some sort, I suppose that would give you a surge as well.

August 20, 2009
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If there's a surge some power supplies will shut down for protection. If its caused by an EMF spike of some sort, I suppose that would give you a surge as well.

Sure, a surge might crowbar the 8.4 VDC power supply, but the battery was online as a backup. It sounds like it happened repeatedly, which makes it all the more unlikely that it was something on the grid. Unlikely, but not impossible.

In fairness to my skeptical nature, I have that same generation of Hi-8 HandyCam (with the really good NightShot), and my batteries, despite being Lithium, are getting long in the tooth. It's possible that Jon's batteries are weak/unstable, and that the outboard power supply is touchy about it's input voltage/frequency.

From my experience as a power plant guy, small islands tend to run on just a few large diesel generators, which aren't very well damped compared to the huge power systems on the mainland. On the plus side, when something dumps the grid on an island, it doesn't take 14 hours to restart like the East Coast did a few years back.

It could be paranormal, or it could be just an interesting set of circumstances with that individual piece of equipment. That's what makes it so hard to be objective about paranormal evidence. There could be some electrical explanation for why my HandyCam and IR lights all shut down at once, or why all of the "entertainment" devices in the car kept malfunctioning on the drive home while the car's computer/nav system/dashboard electronics all worked fine. I don't have a clue what it could be, since several of the devices have their own batteries. The thing that makes me hedge towards paranormal was that it all stopped happening when Karen asked it to go away. That I can't even begin to explain.

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August 20, 2009
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Sure, a surge might crowbar the 8.4 VDC power supply, but the battery was online as a backup. It sounds like it happened repeatedly, which makes it all the more unlikely that it was something on the grid. Unlikely, but not impossible.

In fairness to my skeptical nature, I have that same generation of Hi-8 HandyCam (with the really good NightShot), and my batteries, despite being Lithium, are getting long in the tooth. It's possible that Jon's batteries are weak/unstable, and that the outboard power supply is touchy about it's input voltage/frequency.

From my experience as a power plant guy, small islands tend to run on just a few large diesel generators, which aren't very well damped compared to the huge power systems on the mainland. On the plus side, when something dumps the grid on an island, it doesn't take 14 hours to restart like the East Coast did a few years back.

It could be paranormal, or it could be just an interesting set of circumstances with that individual piece of equipment. That's what makes it so hard to be objective about paranormal evidence. There could be some electrical explanation for why my HandyCam and IR lights all shut down at once, or why all of the "entertainment" devices in the car kept malfunctioning on the drive home while the car's computer/nav system/dashboard electronics all worked fine. I don't have a clue what it could be, since several of the devices have their own batteries. The thing that makes me hedge towards paranormal was that it all stopped happening when Karen asked it to go away. That I can't even begin to explain.

Here on the island we do have a power company. The only thing that gives me pause as to their weak power system is the fact that we had switched 3 of our generators over to supply the island during the storm watch. The power guys I work with are very good, not Jybian good , but very able. We can more than supply a few islands …except they will not let us. We often back up the power company here in emergency situations if anything after we bring our generators on line the power becomes very stable. I will try to bring up a TISS log for those hours and see if there were any power dips before or during the Gin House investigation.

August 20, 2009
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Here on the island we do have a power company. The only thing that gives me pause as to their weak power system is the fact that we had switched 3 of our generators over to supply the island during the storm watch. The power guys I work with are very good, not Jybian good , but very able. We can more than supply a few islands …except they will not let us. We often back up the power company here in emergency situations if anything after we bring our generators on line the power becomes very stable. I will try to bring up a TISS log for those hours and see if there were any power dips before or during the Gin House investigation.

It's not a question of how good the operators are, it's the limitations of a small power grid with regards to stability. Big difference between a 3 megawatt diesel gen-set and a 1,300 megawatt steam turbine, especially when the turbine is paralleled with a whole bunch of other large generators. Isochronous (standalone) regulators are twitchy by nature, because they have no other regulators online to dampen their transients and share load. Paralleling and shifting generators on a small system can wreak havoc temporarily, but it must have been a heck of a storm for it to go on repeatedly.

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August 21, 2009
3:03 am PDT
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Sure, a surge might crowbar the 8.4 VDC power supply, but the battery was online as a backup. It sounds like it happened repeatedly, which makes it all the more unlikely that it was something on the grid. Unlikely, but not impossible.

Its also unlikely that an EMF spike happened strong enough to do anything to the power supply or batteries, but this is an unlikely business. I would imagine that the power output from the source was probably very unstable, and that can cause hectic to any FETS or transformers inside, which could have an affect on the device. You know how it goes, the A/C on the mainland isn't exactly "clean". But you'd have more experience with it than me certainly.

August 21, 2009
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Its also unlikely that an EMF spike happened strong enough to do anything to the power supply or batteries, but this is an unlikely business. I would imagine that the power output from the source was probably very unstable, and that can cause hectic to any FETS or transformers inside, which could have an affect on the device. You know how it goes, the A/C on the mainland isn't exactly "clean". But you'd have more experience with it than me certainly.

Yeah, EMF spikes that big are usually only seen with glowing mushroom clouds and 50-foot mutated cockroaches. /sad.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Laugh' />

The type of switching regulators in those wall power supplies are usually pretty forgiving of voltage swings, and any surge that gets past the flyback transformer should be effectively damped by the battery (one very large chemical capacitance), assuming that the battery is still good and has never undergone self-cannibalization, which is the way Lithium usually goes out. If the battery is internally shorted, that could be overloading the wall supply, because it most definitely will dump on over-current. I know the batteries I still have for my Hi-8 are shot, and they're godawful expensive to replace. I have no idea what kind of shape Jon's are in, but that could be something to focus on, since his camcorder failures seemed to be nearly continuous.

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