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        	<title>MidnightPoet on Cell-Phone Camera&#39;s?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I have seen this photo and while it is neat I do not think it is paranormal, just a publicity stunt for a radio show.  I too miss my Film cameras but they are just too expensive to develop the film for one or two useable pictures &#038; digital cameras are so covenient, they are however pretty easy to manipulate compared to film which is why I do not trust 99.9% when it comes to ghost pictures. <img class="sfimageleft" />/dry.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':unsure:' /></p>
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	I agree with you, for there are lot&#39;s of fakes out there, people dying to experience &#34;fame.&#34; </p>
<p>	I used to own an &#34;Olympus OM-10,&#34; and she was a dandy&#33; I have kicked myself a million times for getting rid of it, because the photo&#39;s I took with it were awesome. You could put the camera on &#34;Manual or Automatic Mode.&#34; That was one sweet camera&#33;</p>
<p>	~ MidnightPoet</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:09:27 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>movieman1500 on Cell-Phone Camera&#39;s?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>I have seen this photo and while it is neat I do not think it is paranormal, just a publicity stunt for a radio show.  I too miss my Film cameras but they are just too expensive to develop the film for one or two useable pictures &#038; digital cameras are so covenient, they are however pretty easy to manipulate compared to film which is why I do not trust 99.9% when it comes to ghost pictures. <img class="sfimageleft" />/dry.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':unsure:' /></p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:11:56 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>MidnightPoet on Cell-Phone Camera&#39;s?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I think you&#39;re begin overly optimistic Poet. I&#39;d have a hard time </p>
<p>	saying that 1 or 2 out of 1000 were legit.</p>
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	I was just using that as a &#34;for example.&#34; I agree with you, which is why I wrote, &#34;...maybe &#34;all&#34; of them are fake.&#34; I was not being optimistic at all&#33;   <img class="sfimageleft" />/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='<img class="spSmiley" src="http://www.paranormalunderground.net/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-laugh.gif" title="Laugh" alt="Laugh" />' /> </p>
<p>	~ MidnightPoet</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:00:21 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>HeidiAnn67 on Cell-Phone Camera&#39;s?</title>
        	<link>http://www.paranormalunderground.net/forum/paranormal-gadgets/cell-phone-cameras/page-1112/#p22232</link>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Anyway, I have a hard time fully trusting any &#34;ghost photo,&#34; just because I don&#39;t know anything about the person who took it, or even if they took it at all. <strong>I bet for every 10 &#34;ghost photo&#39;s&#34; you see nowadays, probably only 1 or 2 out of those 10 will be &#34;The Real Deal,&#34;</strong> and, maybe all of them are fake. I tend to be slightly more trusting of established ghost hunting societies which have been around awhile, and are fairly trustworthy. But, photo&#39;s from individuals, &#34;guilty, till proven innocent&#33;&#34;</p>
<p>	~ MidnightPoet</p>
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	I think you&#39;re begin overly optimistic Poet. I&#39;d have a hard time </p>
<p>	saying that 1 or 2 out of 1000 were legit.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:55:33 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>MidnightPoet on Cell-Phone Camera&#39;s?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I wish I could contribute. I&#39;m still shocked you can upload photos to a cell phone.</p>
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	Karen, I agree, because I never knew that you could do that, either. Then again, I did not realize till about a year or so ago that someone could sit in their car with a &#34;receiver unit&#34; and catch your cars&#39; door-lock code via the airwaves when you get out of your car and lock it with your little gadget on your key ring. I don&#39;t have to worry about it, because I have a 1999 Honda Civic LX.  LOL&#33;&#33;&#33; It has a factory cassette player in it, with Pioneer speakers. Plays like a dream&#33;   <img class="sfimageleft" />/laugh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='<img class="spSmiley" src="http://www.paranormalunderground.net/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-laugh.gif" title="Laugh" alt="Laugh" />' /> </p>
<p>	Anyway, I have a hard time fully trusting any &#34;ghost photo,&#34; just because I don&#39;t know anything about the person who took it, or even if they took it at all. I bet for every 10 &#34;ghost photo&#39;s&#34; you see nowadays, probably only 1 or 2 out of those 10 will be &#34;The Real Deal,&#34; and, maybe all of them are fake. I tend to be slightly more trusting of established ghost hunting societies which have been around awhile, and are fairly trustworthy. But, photo&#39;s from individuals, &#34;guilty, till proven innocent&#33;&#34;</p>
<p>	~ MidnightPoet</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:52:29 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>NoWhammies on Cell-Phone Camera&#39;s?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>I wish I could contribute. I&#39;m still shocked you can upload photos to a cell phone.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:37:27 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>HeidiAnn67 on Cell-Phone Camera&#39;s?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>That&#39;s the best way to keep from falling for a fake. &#34;It&#39;s a fake till proven authentic,&#34; which is kind of the way I act toward people on the Internet, &#34;they are not to be trusted till they prove themselves to me, therefore liars till proven trustworthy. Guilty till proven innocent.&#34;   <img class="sfimageleft" />/unsure.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='<img class="spSmiley" src="http://www.paranormalunderground.net/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-laugh.gif" title="Laugh" alt="Laugh" />' /></p>
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	I&#39;ve had a lot of experience with &#34;fake&#34; online. </p>
<p>	I really should adopt your attitude, but I&#39;m too</p>
<p>	trusting, though not as much as I use to be.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:48:10 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>MidnightPoet on Cell-Phone Camera&#39;s?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>That&#39;s the best way to keep from falling for a fake. &#34;It&#39;s a fake till proven authentic,&#34; which is kind of the way I act toward people on the Internet, &#34;they are not to be trusted till they prove themselves to me, therefore liars till proven trustworthy. Guilty till proven innocent.&#34;   <img class="sfimageleft" />/unsure.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='<img class="spSmiley" src="http://www.paranormalunderground.net/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-laugh.gif" title="Laugh" alt="Laugh" />' /> </p>
<blockquote><p>If this is the picture that I&#39;m thinking of; a young girl looking at the camera and an older woman looking over the girl&#39;s right shoulder, then it was brought to the public&#39;s attention through a radio station.  There&#39;s about 15 pages of discussion of it over at one of the TAPS forums.  I participated in the debate and most everyone there thinks it&#39;s faked as well.  Now there are some people over there that I do trust to a degree, they were debating how easy it is to photoshop anything these days.  One person was able to photoshop in a picture/avatar of another member behind the girl.  It looks pretty real.  </p>
<p>	How to spot the fake?  Sometimes it&#39;s very hard.  Being able to look at a pictures&#39; exif information is valuable.   Other than that, it can be very hard.  Usually I have the opinion that if it&#39;s by a person I don&#39;t know and can&#39;t trust the conditions the picture was taken in, then it&#39;s a fake until proven otherwise.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:32:12 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>RyanNREMTP on Cell-Phone Camera&#39;s?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>If this is the picture that I&#39;m thinking of; a young girl looking at the camera and an older woman looking over the girl&#39;s right shoulder, then it was brought to the public&#39;s attention through a radio station.  There&#39;s about 15 pages of discussion of it over at one of the TAPS forums.  I participated in the debate and most everyone there thinks it&#39;s faked as well.  Now there are some people over there that I do trust to a degree, they were debating how easy it is to photoshop anything these days.  One person was able to photoshop in a picture/avatar of another member behind the girl.  It looks pretty real.  </p>
<p>	How to spot the fake?  Sometimes it&#39;s very hard.  Being able to look at a pictures&#39; exif information is valuable.   Other than that, it can be very hard.  Usually I have the opinion that if it&#39;s by a person I don&#39;t know and can&#39;t trust the conditions the picture was taken in, then it&#39;s a fake until proven otherwise.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 07:46:56 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>HeidiAnn67 on Cell-Phone Camera&#39;s?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Heck, a good photographer can make Demi Moore actually look like someone that should be married to Ashton Kutcher.  At some point, a slightly soft focus becomes everybody&#39;s friend...</p>
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	too bad life didnt have a soft foucs <img class="sfimageleft" />/laugh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='<img class="spSmiley" src="http://www.paranormalunderground.net/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-laugh.gif" title="Laugh" alt="Laugh" />' /></p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 04:56:24 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>TheJybian on Cell-Phone Camera&#39;s?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Film can be faked now too, by photoshopping a hi-res image and printing it on a high DPI printer before photographing the print.  The printer ink blurs the digitization enough that the film grain captures what appears to be a pure image.  It&#39;s just like counterfeiting money though, in that a hack-job will be easily spotted, but a true artist can go for years without being caught.</p>
<p>	Heck, a good photographer can make Demi Moore actually look like someone that should be married to Ashton Kutcher.  At some point, a slightly soft focus becomes everybody&#39;s friend...</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 04:53:34 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>HeidiAnn67 on Cell-Phone Camera&#39;s?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Gosh, I want to ghost hunt so badly, but don&#39;t want to go till I am fully prepared&#33;</p>
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	I think it would be fun to do one...well, boring too (i&#39;m a realist <img class="sfimageleft" />/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='<img class="spSmiley" src="http://www.paranormalunderground.net/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-laugh.gif" title="Laugh" alt="Laugh" />' /> )</p>
<p>	but trying to get into a group around here is impossible, the paranormal</p>
<p>	is the latest fad so lots of people are trying to get into them, and im</p>
<p>	not someone to start my own investigations.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 04:31:18 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>MidnightPoet on Cell-Phone Camera&#39;s?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>the way the neck is cut really gives it away. </p>
<p>	i love reading about ghosts too. i dont know that i&#39;ll do a ghost hunt, but i do believe.</p>
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	Gosh, I want to ghost hunt so badly, but don&#39;t want to go till I am fully prepared&#33;</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 04:29:30 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>HeidiAnn67 on Cell-Phone Camera&#39;s?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Heidi, I agree completely&#33; I am a &#34;critical thinker&#34; at heart, and a &#34;paranoid,&#34; don&#39;t trust anyone, especially in this day and age. I thought it looked fake to me, then again, because I am kind of new to this, I still try and keep my mind open. I have been collecting books about ghosts and ghost hunting since about 1998 or 1999. I am well past 20 books now on ghosts and ghost hunting. Not many, but they are very good quality books, so, it&#39;s a start. My goal is to be into ghost hunting within 3 years or less. I will be about 50 then. I am a young 47 now. Hey, Grandma Moses started painting in her 70&#39;s, and lived till her 90&#39;s, so, there&#39;s still hope for me.   <img class="sfimageleft" />/laugh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='<img class="spSmiley" src="http://www.paranormalunderground.net/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-laugh.gif" title="Laugh" alt="Laugh" />' /></p>
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	the way the neck is cut really gives it away. </p>
<p>	i love reading about ghosts too. i dont know that i&#39;ll do a ghost hunt, but i do believe.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 04:26:58 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>MidnightPoet on Cell-Phone Camera&#39;s?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I dont count out the fact there could be ghosts, I just dont trust the living <img class="sfimageleft" />/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='<img class="spSmiley" src="http://www.paranormalunderground.net/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-laugh.gif" title="Laugh" alt="Laugh" />' /> </p>
<p>	too easy to fake pics now</p>
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	Heidi, I agree completely&#33; I am a &#34;critical thinker&#34; at heart, and a &#34;paranoid,&#34; don&#39;t trust anyone, especially in this day and age. I thought it looked fake to me, then again, because I am kind of new to this, I still try and keep my mind open. I have been collecting books about ghosts and ghost hunting since about 1998 or 1999. I am well past 20 books now on ghosts and ghost hunting. Not many, but they are very good quality books, so, it&#39;s a start. My goal is to be into ghost hunting within 3 years or less. I will be about 50 then. I am a young 47 now. Hey, Grandma Moses started painting in her 70&#39;s, and lived till her 90&#39;s, so, there&#39;s still hope for me.   <img class="sfimageleft" />/laugh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':D' /></p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 04:11:58 -0800</pubDate>
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