I got the first one right, blew the others.

Okay - for all the rest -=-

Here are the answers for those who even just wondered:

A. Triangle

B. Space Shuttle Challenger Distruction

C. Field of Sunflowers.

D. Twin Towers on 9/11.

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Now the person that I am doing this for asked me to do another set of tests ...

R there anyone that would like me to do this here?

I need feed back ... please ... thanks! /biggrin.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />

I tried to upload the picture but well .. this forum format makes it not as easy as I know it can be:

Upload to a picture hosting site (I use photobucket), copy the img code of that picture from said site, paste in thread. Easy as 1, 2, 3.

I have a person on-line that is testing their RemoteViewing - Empath abilities. Long story short - 'there is something there'.

So I've been asked to design some tests for them to help define what they are able to tune into and such.

So I thought some of you might enjoy having some fun and experimenting.

I supply a picture so that they have something specific to focus on .. I found for a lot of people this makes it easier. The person understand - from past dialogs that they have to be as Specific as they can - they are to avoid generics.

Here is all I wrote them:

Okay here are four (4) pictures -

A.

B.

C.

D.

One picture is just a Shape ... Two are Emotional Picture and One is a specific nature picture.

They are printed from my Laser - (to cheap to do color) - I admit it. So they are Grey Scale in color spectrum.

Use the above letters to define the picture.

IE:

A. Is ....

B. Is ...

C. Is ...

D. Is ...

Again be as specific as you can be and don't "over think" or "2nd Guess" yourself. Just "do it".

Remember also to make this as fun as you can.

Hope you are having a great weekend.

Take Care - Jj ...

I tried to upload the picture but well .. this forum format makes it not as easy as I know it can be:

So here is the link to another forum that the picture is Uploaded to:

RemoteView - Empath Experiment

PS - The 'test' will end Tuesday Eve PDT 5/31/2011

How's the no mic experiment going? /unsure.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

So far so good.

However that is the same thing the man who jumped of the Empire State building said as he passed each floor... /smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

One thing I am gleaning from all this is that I increasingly believe that EVP is exactly what it implies. Electronic Phenomena and not spirit voices.

I believe most of what is caught or believed to be a spirit voice is nothing more than the right sounds in the right order at the right time which appear as a voice or word(s).

Can't prove it one way or the other just yet but that's why we keep plugging along.

The second thing is how listeners perceive the recordings. In far too many cases they are not Class A or B quality recordings. They are not easily heard and often are manipulated in various ways, even including reversing all or parts of the recordings. In these cases, it might be more reasonable to suggest that individual perception is at work. And this would explain why different people hear different things as well as why even the same individual hears different things on the same recording at different times.

Isolation experiments, such as recording in Faraday cages or removing working components might be quite useful. It is also useful to perform spectrum analysis on these recordings to see if there are any hints as to the true source of what is heard. Spectrum analysis is only useful if the recordings are quite clean, with low noise and high signal levels. In other words, are Class A or B recordings.

While it there is no model that will enable science to determine the true source of these sounds, some intriguing controlled studies have thus far shown that it is possible for living people to produce these recordings using what appears to be personal PK. When you include the idea that some of this may be motivated by information from external sources, you have a reasonably good explanation for what is going on here, including how some people seem to get communications that are later found to be correct. It would also explain why conversational EVP sessions are possible - because EVP operators are in fact unknowingly talking to themselves.

This may not be a popular idea, but it is one that fits the data. And for the moment, that may be the best notion available.

Then there is PK as referenced above. I don't even know where to begin with correlating that, just too much for my feeble mind, lol..

regards

Andy

I was thinking about this last night when my allergies woke up and I couldn't go back to sleep until the Benedryl kicked in...

Has anyone tried this no microphone recording a step further by deliberately trying to use PK to imprint their voice on tape?

PK is a lot more talent than I possesses. lol I haven't written an article for the mag on this. Still a lot of work to do and no real data that can be shared, only questions in the forum for feedback. Everything else is just my opinion at this point. Maybe I could write something up on what I am trying to do and what I personally think. Then maybe some of the smarter people might be able to figure out where I am going wrong. However, it will have to wait until July because I am going to Disney world tomorrow for a couple weeks. LOL I will give it some serious thought and if you think it’s ok I will run it by you.

Anyway, I also tried using an EMF detector with a recorder to see if an EVP any electromagnetic properties. Thinking if it did, then an EMF detector would be a useful gadget in that it could detect EVP's but I got the same results. Sometimes but not all would I get a reading and an EVP at the same time, so no repetition and still only a theory.

Since my brain works faster than I can apply what I am thinking, (if it works at all) I think I may be getting ahead of myself. I need to practice what I preach and go back to the beginning and go slow. I personally think this is the right track but like that say; Even if you are on the right track, you will get run over if you just sit there. I think I am missing something small but very significant.

Has anyone tried this no microphone recording a step further by deliberately trying to use PK to imprint their voice on tape?

Several people have reported to me these same phenomena. I too have experienced it but not enough to draw any conclusions. However, since I am getting sound with the recorder and only an inaudible fluctuation with the disabled one, I may need to look at this from another angle.

It may be a matter of the phenomenon of sound below 19 decibels rather than imprinting. Lots more work to do...

You should write an article about this for the magazine. Or have you already???

I have tried this experiment three times over the past several months during investigations. On one occasion I did catch what is considered a Class B EVP on the recorder with the microphone working. The recorder that has the microphone disabled did not record any audio at all. But there was an interesting blip in the soundwave that is visible and audible right at the same time as the EVP is heard on the recorder with the microphone. The blip is a drop in frequency. For the entire 45 minute session the recorder without microphone had a pretty steady and straight line of static except for this one point where it drops and matches up to the second with the EVP on the other recorder. It could be purely coincidence, or something unknown, but it was interesting.

I'm doing more of these experiments in upcoming investigations. Will report more later.

Tom Stewart

http://www.RISEUPparanormal.com

Several people have reported to me these same phenomena. I too have experienced it but not enough to draw any conclusions. However, since I am getting sound with the recorder and only an inaudible fluctuation with the disabled one, I may need to look at this from another angle.

It may be a matter of the phenomenon of sound below 19 decibels rather than imprinting. Lots more work to do...

I have posted this other places but this looks like the appropriate place.

I have adopted a theory of my own regarding EVP's. I still believe it is possible that EVP's may be spirits but that they are not physical sound but electronic impulses picked up directly by the recorder or tape, not by the microphone and then transformed into sound.

Simply put, microphones pick up changes in air pressure. The sound waves are picked up by a microphone which converts them into electronic impulses. These impulses are amplified in the recorder. Then pass through the heads which give out a magnetic impulse and then recorded on the passing tape. Now, roughly speaking, a microphone is designed to pick up physical changes in air pressure and the sound waves are in a range closely comparable to the human ear.

This being the case, any EVP picked up by a microphone should be heard by everyone present when it was recorded. However, they almost never are and if they are picked up by the human ear then they are most likely physical sound and probably not a spirit. Remember EVP is electronic voice phenomena not spirit voices.

I believe, that EVP's are the impulses made by the energy produced by an entity and not physical sounds emanating from the entity. So, maybe, in certain conditions it could be directly picked up by a recorder. Maybe the EVP's we are catching are bypassing the microphone and maybe microphones are even interfering with capturing EVP's because they pick up outside physical sounds and we are missing more than capturing.

Now, I am also experimenting using a tape (not digital yet) recorder with a disconnected microphone in conjunction with my regular & digital recording devices to see if there is a difference, if one picks up more than the other or if the mic'less one should pick up something the regular one doesn't. (this is for those of you who are doing or want to do research. Researchers know that you must use all methods available) So for me at least so far, this is the next step in recording for EVP's and so far so good.

(Yes I guess this could be compared loosly to the Bell Jar experiment. Which I have plans of implementing in an underwater enviroment. That's another experiment...)

Back on topic... You can easily disable a recorders microphone if you have an old one. However, you should always use two recorders. One next to the other when trying this method. One with a mic and one without. This way you cover all bases.

The results at minimum will be that you may have some white noise from the recorder itself but you won't get any physical sounds that might be confused as an EVP or spirit voice.

At best, when (and I mean when) you get a voice on your mic'less recorder then you will know you have something. That, paired with the recording from the one with the mic showing no physical sounds, becomes evidence of something not of the physical realm.

Now I know what you are going to say. "What if we get the same exact voice on both at the exact same time?" This is very unlikely because of the science of sound. However, should you get this. Then I would say you may be holding the golden chalice of EVP's because this might show proof of a non physical being crossing over into the physical world. And isn't that one of the things we are looking for?

FOOTNOTE: Don't disable your recorder unless you can afford to do so. I don't want people going around breaking their recorders for this one experiment. This is for those that can afford to and are prepered to do serious research.

I have tried this experiment three times over the past several months during investigations. On one occasion I did catch what is considered a Class B EVP on the recorder with the microphone working. The recorder that has the microphone disabled did not record any audio at all. But there was an interesting blip in the soundwave that is visible and audible right at the same time as the EVP is heard on the recorder with the microphone. The blip is a drop in frequency. For the entire 45 minute session the recorder without microphone had a pretty steady and straight line of static except for this one point where it drops and matches up to the second with the EVP on the other recorder. It could be purely coincidence, or something unknown, but it was interesting.

I'm doing more of these experiments in upcoming investigations. Will report more later.

Tom Stewart

http://www.RISEUPparanormal.com

Andy

GB, can you be more specific as to what I am looking at in this picture? I have recently purchased a true full spectrum camera (not like the moditronic, but open, unimpeded spectrum from 260nm all the way up to over 1000nm, no filtering) from another researcher in Tulsa OK. I find this pic very interesting, because it matches as similar anomaly that he captured with an identical camera, only the sparkle/flashing was inside a bedroom.

FS Light anomaly

Anomaly becomes visible at about 55 seconds.

I am just wondering if this is a product of UV, or what. The pic you posted though matches the above anomaly perfect, so it is very intriguing. My group has purchased 2 of these cameras from this gentleman and we look forward to deployment on investigations...

Andy

I believe what you are seeing here is UV in motion being picked up by the device. That is why you can see the cars in the background moving back and forth. It is my understanding that it picks up the UV from many sources. I found an explanation here .

What I am wondering is if there is something similar to this that picks up energy patterns in their true form. What I am getting at is, if there is something like this and a spirit does emit some type energy pattern then we would be able to see it with such a device. Granted it is a stretch but I would think someone could make one if, one doesn't already exist.

An ideal device would only pick up certain energy patterns like a thermal imager picks up heat signatures. I think this device picks up all forms of energy including heat.

I may not be making myself clear. My mind is running in a few directions on this and I am not even 100% sure on what I am looking for just yet. It looks easy in my head but explaining it is a little more difficult. lol

I like Ryans idea and it sparked my idea. Sorry if I dragged the intended subject off topic.