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OfflineI have tried this experiment three times over the past several months during investigations. On one occasion I did catch what is considered a Class B EVP on the recorder with the microphone working. The recorder that has the microphone disabled did not record any audio at all. But there was an interesting blip in the soundwave that is visible and audible right at the same time as the EVP is heard on the recorder with the microphone. The blip is a drop in frequency. For the entire 45 minute session the recorder without microphone had a pretty steady and straight line of static except for this one point where it drops and matches up to the second with the EVP on the other recorder. It could be purely coincidence, or something unknown, but it was interesting.
I'm doing more of these experiments in upcoming investigations. Will report more later.
Tom Stewart
Several people have reported to me these same phenomena. I too have experienced it but not enough to draw any conclusions. However, since I am getting sound with the recorder and only an inaudible fluctuation with the disabled one, I may need to look at this from another angle.
It may be a matter of the phenomenon of sound below 19 decibels rather than imprinting. Lots more work to do…
OfflineSeveral people have reported to me these same phenomena. I too have experienced it but not enough to draw any conclusions. However, since I am getting sound with the recorder and only an inaudible fluctuation with the disabled one, I may need to look at this from another angle.
It may be a matter of the phenomenon of sound below 19 decibels rather than imprinting. Lots more work to do…
You should write an article about this for the magazine. Or have you already???
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OfflineI was thinking about this last night when my allergies woke up and I couldn't go back to sleep until the Benedryl kicked in…
Has anyone tried this no microphone recording a step further by deliberately trying to use PK to imprint their voice on tape?
PK is a lot more talent than I possesses. lol I haven't written an article for the mag on this. Still a lot of work to do and no real data that can be shared, only questions in the forum for feedback. Everything else is just my opinion at this point. Maybe I could write something up on what I am trying to do and what I personally think. Then maybe some of the smarter people might be able to figure out where I am going wrong. However, it will have to wait until July because I am going to Disney world tomorrow for a couple weeks. LOL I will give it some serious thought and if you think it’s ok I will run it by you.
Anyway, I also tried using an EMF detector with a recorder to see if an EVP any electromagnetic properties. Thinking if it did, then an EMF detector would be a useful gadget in that it could detect EVP's but I got the same results. Sometimes but not all would I get a reading and an EVP at the same time, so no repetition and still only a theory.
Since my brain works faster than I can apply what I am thinking, (if it works at all) I think I may be getting ahead of myself. I need to practice what I preach and go back to the beginning and go slow. I personally think this is the right track but like that say; Even if you are on the right track, you will get run over if you just sit there. I think I am missing something small but very significant.
OfflineEVP is just one of those fields that defy categorization. It appears that evp can manifest in 2 ways, via sound pressure (actual vibratory soundwaves) as evidenced by Waldemar Bogoras' recordings in the early 1900's using a mechanical gramaphone or via electrical inductance (as shown by recording evp's in a total vacuum).
Then there is PK as referenced above. I don't even know where to begin with correlating that, just too much for my feeble mind, lol..
regards
Andy
OfflinePersonal PK is certainly one potential explanation for EVP. Perhaps one way to think about it is that there are really two things going on here. The first is creating a recording which anyone can hear and which produces general agreement as to its contents. This is what you might call a Class A or a Class B EVP. The point of these is that many can easily hear the words and there is little or no debate as to the contents. There is also little or no manipulation or distortion required in order to hear what is there. In these cases, something interesting is being recorded, but how? In this case a PK imprinting process makes sense.
The second thing is how listeners perceive the recordings. In far too many cases they are not Class A or B quality recordings. They are not easily heard and often are manipulated in various ways, even including reversing all or parts of the recordings. In these cases, it might be more reasonable to suggest that individual perception is at work. And this would explain why different people hear different things as well as why even the same individual hears different things on the same recording at different times.
Isolation experiments, such as recording in Faraday cages or removing working components might be quite useful. It is also useful to perform spectrum analysis on these recordings to see if there are any hints as to the true source of what is heard. Spectrum analysis is only useful if the recordings are quite clean, with low noise and high signal levels. In other words, are Class A or B recordings.
While it there is no model that will enable science to determine the true source of these sounds, some intriguing controlled studies have thus far shown that it is possible for living people to produce these recordings using what appears to be personal PK. When you include the idea that some of this may be motivated by information from external sources, you have a reasonably good explanation for what is going on here, including how some people seem to get communications that are later found to be correct. It would also explain why conversational EVP sessions are possible – because EVP operators are in fact unknowingly talking to themselves.
This may not be a popular idea, but it is one that fits the data. And for the moment, that may be the best notion available.
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So far so good.
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One thing I am gleaning from all this is that I increasingly believe that EVP is exactly what it implies. Electronic Phenomena and not spirit voices.
I believe most of what is caught or believed to be a spirit voice is nothing more than the right sounds in the right order at the right time which appear as a voice or word(s).
Can't prove it one way or the other just yet but that's why we keep plugging along.
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