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        	<title>MysticalKnight on Do I Need a Protection Prayer When I Go Ghost Hunting?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Story originally posted on <a href="http://globalparanormal.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://globalparanormal.com</a> by Chad Stambaugh.</p>
<p>My personal opinion is that demons exist in several levels and powers. I have seen things to make me believe that they are working in many ways to influence people daily. I do believe some spirits are evil but only if they were evil when they where amongst the living. I also believe that there are Spirits called Trixters that will act like Spirits that some are trying to contact. I believe that they will follow you home from the haunted location for just about any reason they think of.</p>
<p>So I say that a protection prayer before and after is better than anything else you could do to let them know where you stand. Also it wouldn’t hurt to have some sort of object of your belief to reassure your belief that your Protection Prayer will work.  Its known as a comforter in times of need.</p>
<p>Some will be wondering why ( I don’t believe I need Protection ) I am in any danger of a spirit or demon following me from a Investigation. What You believe is just Your opinion and not fact. I decided when I started the Investigation, the amount of time it takes to say a protective prayer at the beginning and at the end of an Investigation is so small  that I may as well do them. Plus if they really do prevent the spirits from following me from an Investigation then it is more worth the time and effort to do them.</p>
<p>To read the rest of Chad’s article, visit <a href="http://globalparanormal.com/do-i-need-a-protection-prayer-when-i-go-ghost-hunting/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><a href="http://globalparanormal.com/do" rel="nofollow">http://globalparanormal.com/do</a>.....t-hunting/</a>.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:06:52 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>MysticalKnight on Something to ponder</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Nightwatcher,</p>
<p>	Don&#39;t hesitate to share other information sources. We like those. <img class="sfimageleft" />/biggrin.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':D' /></p>
<p>	I think that there is definitely residual energy left behind by people and even things. But, I think that there are intelligent spirits around us. And I even think that maybe a part of us can split off and stay behind ... even seemingly acting intelligently with the living. I&#39;m not sure about this last part, though.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2012 23:59:19 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>Nightwatcher on Something to ponder</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> It&#39;s believed that all living creatures are made up of energy.  No one knows what happens to the energy after we die.  Going by Einstein&#39;s laws then energy is neither created nor destroyed, so what happens to it.  Maybe by making a house a home, we are giving some of our energy to the home.  It can either override the incoming presence or strengthen it and allow it to remain.  This all depends on us when we move into a new house.</p>
<p>	Just something to ponder and debate.</p>
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	Time to revive an old thread. I have often read that spirits or ghosts as many people call them are the energies left over when people pass away. All living things eventually die including animals, birds, plants and all things that have life. I have seen, heard and was touched or harmed by spirits. So if this theory that spirits are leftover energy, then anything that has ever lived would leave behind a spirit. I have seen spirits that looked human to me and I have seen the spirit of a cat. I don&#39;t believe that I ever saw the spirits of any other animal, bird, fish, tree or plant.</p>
<p>	I know what the word &#34;paranormal&#34; means and recently I came across the word &#34;perinormal&#34; which is new to me. I never saw this word or heard it spoken. You can get a fairly good idea what the word perinormal means here: <a href="http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Perinormal-phenomenon" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.nationmas" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.nationmas</a>...rmal-phenomenon   Again I am not trying to promote the web site but only sharing a source of information.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2012 17:26:09 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>MysticalKnight on Is paranormal field research a waste of time?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>I think at first the equipment awes new investigators, or even seasoned investigators. But after time, I&#39;ve heard many investigators say they&#39;ve ditched much of the equipment and turned to their senses. I think both ways are an important part of investigations, both equipment and sense. It&#39;s a balancing act.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 05:48:06 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>Baruc on Is paranormal field research a waste of time?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Extremely well put NW, I think that you&#39;ve covered all the bases very well in just a couple of paragraphs. Anyone casually passing through this forum would do well than to remember your words.</p>
<p>	Positive to see that you&#39;ve picked up on the trend to wave shiney things around in the name of science, I touched upon this myself in another thread in the last couple of days. Observing many groups these days, most people appear to have forgotten the basics and even worse, don&#39;t understand at all the capabilities, or otherwise, of the so called professional <del>toys</del> equipment that they seem to use.</p>
<p>	Kind Regards</p>
<p>	Baruc.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2012 23:20:14 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>NoWhammies on Is paranormal field research a waste of time?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Great question&#33; I would change the over-reliance on instrumentation used to &#34;prove&#34; hauntings when there is no scientific proof that any of those instruments can do anything to detect a ghost. I&#39;d also change the language we use and assumptions we make. For example, we assume ghosts are the spirits of dead people, but we don&#39;t know that. We don&#39;t know what causes the anomalies we notice - not really. I don&#39;t care if you see and record an apparition materializing right in front of your eyes that looks like your Great Aunt Fannie. Just because that is what you see and capture on film does not mean it is the spirit of Great Aunt Fannie. It may be, but it could be other things, as well.</p>
<p>	These assumptions make me nuts, yet we use them all the time. And when we report our experiences, investigators rely on terminology that seems to confirm these assumptions. I seldom see findings presented without interpretation, either. Using the above example, in a report an investigator might say, &#34;I saw the ghost of Great Aunt Fannie.&#34; That statement is riddled with interpretation. In fact, what you saw was a figure that appeared with the features and form of Aunt Fannie. We need to stop reporting interpretation as fact.</p>
<p>	We assume EVPs are voices of the dead and present them as such. That&#39;s an interpretation. In fact, EVPs are merely audio anomalies we can&#39;t really explain. We do ourselves a disservice by reporting these as something we don&#39;t know they actually are. If we assume we know what they are without actually trying to figure it out, then we are exactly what critics call us - pseudoscientific.</p>
<p>	That being said, the other thing that really bugs is the current trend moving away from personal experience. We are our own best tools. Our observations, our experiences and our feelings do matter on investigations - but we need to report them as just that - observations and not scientific fact. To do anything else obfuscates data and keeps us from making actual progress.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2012 16:25:07 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>Baruc on Is paranormal field research a waste of time?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Recently I re-read a thought provoking article published in the SPRâ€™s (UK) April 2007 edition of The Paranormal Review.</p>
<p>	In it, the author, John Fraser asks several questions about contemporary investigation techniques and questions their value. Amongst the many areas he discusses, he queries the age old tradition of investigating at night, the value of investigating through to the daylight hours of the following morning and the reliance of many groups upon orbs and mists as evidence of paranormal activity.</p>
<p>	Thinking about this, if you had your way, what would you change in contemporary investigation and why?</p>
<p>	Kind Regards</p>
<p>	Baruc.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2012 11:00:57 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>Baruc on Ouija Boards</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Hi MK,</p>
<p>	Indeed, but sadly I suspect that in the instances that I&#39;ve observed, they most definitely did not.</p>
<p>	Kind Regards</p>
<p>	Baruc.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 22:12:15 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>MysticalKnight on Ouija Boards</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Hi Baruc,</p>
<p>	Well the fact that it&#39;s a game does set it apart from an audio recorder, etc. That doesn&#39;t mean spirits can&#39;t use it IMO. Chad bought a nice, new, fancy Ouija board recently, and I&#39;ll admit, I&#39;m slightly afraid to use it&#33;</p>
<p>	BTW, I love cheesecake. LOL</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 01:30:44 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>Baruc on Ouija Boards</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Hi MysticalKnight,</p>
<p>	But there&#39;s the rub, there&#39;s no logical reason to fear a bit of wood / card with some letter etched into it, but fear it we do. A psychological effect built up after many years of hype. There&#39;s nothing to be scared of.</p>
<p>	Or is there?</p>
<p>	I know it sounds silly but I get a bit spooked when I do EVP sessions sometimes. Perhaps we&#39;re all scared of the wrong thing.</p>
<p>	I just can&#39;t get them to &#39;work&#39; for me, despite the want of trying.</p>
<p>	I just personally feel that they have no place in a field investigation scenario. Unless you can get that planchette moving on it&#39;s own perhaps.</p>
<p>	Kind Regards</p>
<p>	Baruc.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 21:44:48 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>MysticalKnight on Ouija Boards</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>I guess I should have said ... I shouldn&#39;t be any more afraid to use a Ouija board than to use a voice recorder for an EVP session.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 18:22:27 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>Baruc on Ouija Boards</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m not sure that they could be considered an investigation tool as such, it would be using the paranormal to investigate the paranormal so to speak. Probably more a research subject in itself perhaps.</p>
<p>	I can only comment that when I&#39;ve tried to use something like this I&#39;ve never had any success, the planchette / glass has always remained stationary. My ever lasting memories are just aching arms from holding my finger in situ. I must try harder I know.</p>
<p>	Kind Regards</p>
<p>	Baruc.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 23:09:53 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>MysticalKnight on Ouija Boards</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>I do agree that using a Ouija board should be no different than using other paranormal investigation tools. They all are being used for the same purposes right?</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:46:20 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>Baruc on Ouija Boards</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>On a personal level, I see them as scrying tools, nothing more. I guess, from a psychological basis, this makes them no less dangerous for some people.</p>
<p>	Kind Regards</p>
<p>	Baruc.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:23:30 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>NoWhammies on Ouija Boards</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s going to sound like an urban legend, but I have talked to people who have claimed just that (the planchette moved on its own). That being said, I&#39;ve never seen it happen, but then I&#39;ve only used a Ouija board a handful of times. </p>
<p>	Baruc is right. I believe many &#34;divining&#34; tools require a human to touch them because of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideomotor_phenomenon" target="_blank">ideomotor phenomenon</a>. I think pendulums and divining rods do the same thing. I once watched someone experiment with a pendulum by placing it in a sealed glass tube where no one was touching it and nothing could affect it. That sucker, which had been freely moving in someone&#39;s hand, didn&#39;t budge. I&#39;d guess it&#39;s the same with a Ouija board.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2012 16:18:52 -0700</pubDate>
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