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I think the first time they used it was at the urging of Chris Fleming. 'Nuff said.
Let me say a bit more if you would indulge me Whammies. Surely thinking people are not entranced by this device. Surely.
Certainly there is a profit-model advanced by Fleming, Hawes and Wilson.
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Let me say a bit more if you would indulge me Whammies. Surely thinking people are not entranced by this device. Surely.
Certainly there is a profit-model advanced by Fleming, Hawes and Wilson.
There absolutely is. Fleming was selling it on his site when he first had them use it in the GH Manson episode. The much debunked episode, I might add.
There absolutely is. Fleming was selling it on his site when he first had them use it in the GH Manson episode. The much debunked episode, I might add.
I would have to ask now, what possible credibility do the plumbers have?
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I would have to ask now, what possible credibility do the plumbers have?
in my mind – about the same credibility as Chris Fleming. /blink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':o' /> Come on – being on TV doesn't equal credibility? Is this why no one listens to me – because I don't have a TV show???
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Didn't Chris Fleming invent the KII?
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Who is Chris Fleming?
KII is just something that flashes, imo for more exciting tv for some.
Whether for or against, people talk about it.
Same thing with GH, and the flashlight.
Another flashy thingy. hmmm!
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I know nothing of electronics but just don't trust something like the K11. I do trust my own eyes & ears though.
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Who is Chris Fleming?
KII is just something that flashes, imo for more exciting tv for some.
Whether for or against, people talk about it.
Same thing with GH, and the flashlight.
Another flashy thingy. hmmm!
He was the sensitive or psychic on Dead Famous.
Here's his site: http://www.unknownmagazine.com/
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I went on a sorta spirit or ghost hunt back in January at the Bijou Theater in Knoxville, TN. In the picture below the woman was asking questions and the KII was going crazy. She thought she was getting really vivid responses. I snapped this picture and didn't think much about it until I downloaded to my computer.
To note: we were in the unlit fourth floor area. The light you see is from the flash of my camera, my low light setting works NOT in NO-LIGHT situations!
She was actually getting great responses from the heating and air's fuse box!
Edited by me to correct spelling and make more readable! /mellow.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':huh:' />
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As not to completely lose my original point…I understand the KII is used most reliably to find cell phone signals. So it works to find fluctuating signals. It can be activated by cell phones, two-way radios, etc…
So, as is it is unreliable in ghost hunting. Way too many variables exist to say you find a ghost with one of these!
Only my opinion.
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I went on a sorta spirit or ghost hunt back in January at the Bijou Theater in Knoxville, TN. In the picture below the woman was asking questions and the KII was going crazy. She thought she was getting really vivid responses. I snapped this picture and didn't think much about it until I downloaded to my computer.
To note: we were in the unlit fourth floor area. The light you see is from the flash of my camera, my low light setting works NOT in NO-LIGHT situations!
She was actually getting great responses from the heating and air's fuse box!
Edited by me to correct spelling and make more readable!
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This is exactly why I doubt the veracity of EMF detectors of all kinds to detect the presence of spirits. Certainly they might be used to rule out other explanations such as high areas of EMF, but the only thing that they will ever show are things with natural causes.
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This is exactly why I doubt the veracity of EMF detectors of all kinds to detect the presence of spirits. Certainly they might be used to rule out other explanations such as high areas of EMF, but the only thing that they will ever show are things with natural causes.
What about our EMF spikes at the Villisca Axe Murder House? There was no electricity in the house. Is there such a thing as natural EMF fields which move around? We were also on the second story, mind you, when we got our biggest spikes on 2 separate EMF detectors, which were roughly 3 feet apart at the time.
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There are natural earth EMF Fields around us all the time as well. Also the human body gives off a minute degree of it. Then you have powerlines, cell phones, radio traffic from say emergency vehicles and such that can set off an EMF detector.
For me the only purpose of it is to find out if the client or person is being exposed to a high level of it and whether it's possible that their experiences is from the absorption of EMF.
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The KII in my opinion is a crock. Even if it does work from time to time, it seems to be sensitive enough to be set off by anything. I've seen a couple of episodes of GH where they seem to get responses to questions. I wonder how much film makes it on TV where they don't get reliable flashes of light.
What about our EMF spikes at the Villisca Axe Murder House? There was no electricity in the house. Is there such a thing as natural EMF fields which move around? We were also on the second story, mind you, when we got our biggest spikes on 2 separate EMF detectors, which were roughly 3 feet apart at the time.
EMF does move around naturally as well. I'm not sure that you'd call it moving, so much as fluctuating. I'm sure you don't see that happen a lot or anything, but that doesn't really make it anymore paranormal than not. Could it have been a ghost? Maybe. But everything has effect on EMF in some way. For something paranormal to as well is actually the norm. So how does one separate what is paranormal and what is not? If you can't unless something paranormal actually happens, then what is the point?
I'm sure EMF Detectors may come in handy for some of you on your hunts, but if you are actually investigating, then I don't see how that could be used in an actual scientific investigation.
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A few fellow investigators have K-IIs and have used them from time to time during EVP/dowsing sessions. Sometimes, the K-IIs do "respond" to questions . . . usually when we're at a very active site.
Whenever the K-II or any other device reacts strongly, we check for external stimuli. As a part of our investigative protocols, we check the Net for space weather updates, monitoring solar flares, geomagnetic activity, etc . . . along with local weather conditions and seismic activity.
So far, I feel that it's a tool and it's a tool that appears to be working well for my fellow investigators.
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A few fellow investigators have K-IIs and have used them from time to time during EVP/dowsing sessions. Sometimes, the K-IIs do "respond" to questions . . . usually when we're at a very active site.
Whenever the K-II or any other device reacts strongly, we check for external stimuli. As a part of our investigative protocols, we check the Net for space weather updates, monitoring solar flares, geomagnetic activity, etc . . . along with local weather conditions and seismic activity.
So far, I feel that it's a tool and it's a tool that appears to be working well for my fellow investigators.
Brad, when you check for external stimuli that might trigger the KII, to what degree can you eliminate that outside stimuli?
Recently, I was told by a long-time paranormal investigator who had never put much stock in the KII say that they had tested it out and gotten some intriguing results. They were surprised.
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A few fellow investigators have K-IIs and have used them from time to time during EVP/dowsing sessions. Sometimes, the K-IIs do "respond" to questions . . . usually when we're at a very active site.
Whenever the K-II or any other device reacts strongly, we check for external stimuli. As a part of our investigative protocols, we check the Net for space weather updates, monitoring solar flares, geomagnetic activity, etc . . . along with local weather conditions and seismic activity.
So far, I feel that it's a tool and it's a tool that appears to be working well for my fellow investigators.
Sure thing. I think the problem is that if you'd like to use the K-II for investigations, then you have to eliminate everything possible that would mess with the meter. Really though, if the K-II meter is going crazy, the EMF Meter should also go crazy as well I'd think.
Thinking about this makes me curious if someone has used a Spectrum Analyzer to see if any frequency bandwidth spike during activity. Of course they are expensive and the RF ranges may be outside of anything happening higher up. But I figure if EVP's are actually made from spirits, then something in the RF or acoustical range probably happens.
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Brad, when you check for external stimuli that might trigger the KII, to what degree can you eliminate that outside stimuli?
Recently, I was told by a long-time paranormal investigator who had never put much stock in the KII say that they had tested it out and gotten some intriguing results. They were surprised.
We check to see if certain appliances were on, radios or TVs. And like I said earlier, we check the ambient fields and factor in nearby powerlines.
I had a chat with a few of the investigators last night. They seem to be fine with the K-II; the hits they've gotten during EVP/dowsing sessions have impressed them.
We talked about the debate. Like some said, they consider it a tool and are aware that other teams disdain K-II use. Like one friend said, we use sensitives on our team . . . and there's a debate about that . . . .
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We check to see if certain appliances were on, radios or TVs. And like I said earlier, we check the ambient fields and factor in nearby powerlines.
I had a chat with a few of the investigators last night. They seem to be fine with the K-II; the hits they've gotten during EVP/dowsing sessions have impressed them.
We talked about the debate. Like some said, they consider it a tool and are aware that other teams disdain K-II use. Like one friend said, we use sensitives on our team . . . and there's a debate about that . . . .
Brad, I think that your team's awareness of equipment limitations and the surrounding environment sounds like a great thing. And I also like the fact that they don't just base their opinion on what they hear from others. It sounds like they test equipment themselves and then come to their own conclusions about its viability.
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Brad, I think that your team's awareness of equipment limitations and the surrounding environment sounds like a great thing. And I also like the fact that they don't just base their opinion on what they hear from others. It sounds like they test equipment themselves and then come to their own conclusions about its viability.
We're always checking into new tech and/or techniques that we can use in the field. If we think it can help with the investigation, help our clients, we'll give it a try. We hope to be field-testing a MiniBox here soon.
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