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Background Checks for Paranormal Investigatiors
May 9, 2009
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almosthunted
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There has been a campaign spearheaded by Shannon Sylvia, to require proper checks to be done on the people investigating your home/bussiness. What kind of documentation would you require to let a group investigate your home?

May 9, 2009
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Me and my husband both were in the Boy Scouts. And, you had to have background checks. Also, two-deep leadership if anyone was under the age of 18 years of age. I didn't mine. It was for my protection. As well as for others.

So, I think it should be done.

Also, I saw somewhere that there are "make-believe" paranormal investigators going around to people's homes. And, robbing them. Gee, I wish I knew where I read that. Did someone else saw the same thing?

May 9, 2009
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Me and my husband both were in the Boy Scouts. And, you had to have background checks. Also, two-deep leadership if anyone was under the age of 18 years of age. I didn't mine. It was for my protection. As well as for others.

So, I think it should be done.

Also, I saw somewhere that there are "make-believe" paranormal investigators going around to people's homes. And, robbing them. Gee, I wish I knew where I read that. Did someone else saw the same thing?

Crouty, the one thing we have heard is that there was a man doing investigations who was a convicted sex offender. He was doing investigations in homes with children. No one knew.

I worked in a bank and I own firearms, I have been bonded, fingerprinted, injected, inspected and neglected as Arlo Guthrie said!

I would want documentation from HELL on people coming onto my property and into my house.

I hope Shannon gets a long way in her campaign. And I hope that I can help her.

May 9, 2009
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I think that investigators could maybe pay for their own background checks, and then use that as part of the reason why they should be chosen over other groups in the area. That way the consumer can take responsibility for making the wise choices. It is up to the homeowner to be aware who is coming in their home. So maybe what is needed is education so that homeowners can make informed choices and know the risks.

May 9, 2009
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The homeowners would have to be able to verify these background checks so an investigator who presents a Background Check from the ACME Background Check Company could be eliminated from the acceptable list of investigators.

I see the investigator paying for the check, before he/she becomes a member of an investigative group certainly they should be able to prove their acceptibility.

May 9, 2009
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I'm all for this if it can be done on the cheap. With the economy the way it is, it would break the bank on most teams. Luckily everyone on our group works for the EMS agency that I work for. We have to go through yearly background checks by the company, state and federal government. I hold a CHL license so that's additional background checks that I have to do also.

I think it would be easier if Shannon didn't just focus on paranormal groups. Use cable, appliance repair, PLUMBERS, and other type people that come into houses as well. Just some type of online subscription service that the homeowner can use.

May 11, 2009
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I'm all for this if it can be done on the cheap. With the economy the way it is, it would break the bank on most teams. Luckily everyone on our group works for the EMS agency that I work for. We have to go through yearly background checks by the company, state and federal government. I hold a CHL license so that's additional background checks that I have to do also.

I think it would be easier if Shannon didn't just focus on paranormal groups. Use cable, appliance repair, PLUMBERS, and other type people that come into houses as well. Just some type of online subscription service that the homeowner can use.

There is a local carpet cleaning company that advertises that every one of their employees is background checked and drug tested. I've seen it in marketing with other services that come into your home, as well. I would say that, in a free marketplace, doing something like this that give you a leg-up over the competition. So maybe the answer is that people can elect to do this or not and then let the free marketplace work things out. Yes. I realize that sounds extremely libertarian.

May 18, 2009
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There is a local carpet cleaning company that advertises that every one of their employees is background checked and drug tested. I've seen it in marketing with other services that come into your home, as well. I would say that, in a free marketplace, doing something like this that give you a leg-up over the competition. So maybe the answer is that people can elect to do this or not and then let the free marketplace work things out. Yes. I realize that sounds extremely libertarian.

I agree wholeheartly with this. Ppl should know who is coming into their homes but I also get my hackles up with too much knowledge of ppl's personal lives. The government is becoming way too

intrusive in some places. I do understand why ppl would want to know who they're dealing with though.

May 18, 2009
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Sex offender hunting ghosts violates probation

Published: April 20, 2009

BROOKSVILLE – A sex offender was arrested for violating his probation after he was caught in a graveyard after his curfew looking for ghosts.

The suspect, Justin Wright, and four others were seen by a deputy driving two vehicles into Spring Hill Cemetery on Fort Dade Avenue near 1 a.m. on Sunday.

The deputy followed them into the graveyard and spoke with the quartet, who told him they were looking for ghosts in the supposedly haunted location. A background check of the four revealed that Wright was a registered sex offender and was supposed to be home between the hours of 10 p.m. and 6 a.m., according to a report. Wright was charged with violation of probation, a felony.

Boy, 11, struck in head by uncle SPRING HILL Deputies charged a Spring Hill man with child abuse on Saturday after they say he slapped his 10-year-old nephew in the head.

The alleged victim told deputies that he was hiding in the woods because his uncle, Matthew Ortiz, and his friends were trying to shoot him with a BB gun. He sent two text messages to his father, who instructed him to return home.

When the 11-year-old emerged from the woods, Ortiz, who had been searching for him, slapped him in the face and buttocks, according to a report.

The deputy noted in his report that the victim had the beginning stages of a bruise on his right eye.

Ortiz told the deputy that he was searching for the victim for 30 minutes and struck him out of "fear and frustration," the report states.

Ortiz, 22, was charged with child abuse.

June 8, 2009
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I think there's more than just seeing documentation--though that would be one thing I looked for. I'd want personal references, too--from people I know--before I'd let someone into my home--esp if they were investigating without me there. Also, group affiliations, reputation, ect…

LOL Then again, I'm slightly neurotic and I might just hide spy cams everywhere and watch everything they do while they do it. /ohmy.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':o' />

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June 8, 2009
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Michelle, that's one thing you wouldn't have to worry about with my group. The client is required to be on scene at all times. If they leave for some reason we either pack up or suspend the investigation till they get back.

June 8, 2009
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Michelle, that's one thing you wouldn't have to worry about with my group. The client is required to be on scene at all times. If they leave for some reason we either pack up or suspend the investigation till they get back.

Oh, I hope no one took me to mean them directly. /smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':o' /> I didn't. I was thinking hypothetical stranger group.

Sounds like a good policy. On the other side of things, as a group I could see not wanting to get blamed for things--broken objects, missing things--that you didn't do. I'd like to think that most people are honest and easy to work with as an investigator, but it always just takes one… /smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Laugh' />

Out of curiosity… Any of the investigators have problems with clients?

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Oh, I hope no one took me to mean them directly. /smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':o' /> I didn't. I was thinking hypothetical stranger group.

Sounds like a good policy. On the other side of things, as a group I could see not wanting to get blamed for things--broken objects, missing things--that you didn't do. I'd like to think that most people are honest and easy to work with as an investigator, but it always just takes one… /smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Laugh' />

Out of curiosity… Any of the investigators have problems with clients?

Fully Loaded question there.

June 28, 2009
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I think this is a great idea, but it makes me wonder about all the people we let into our homes; the pool guy, exterminators,

heating and air repairmen, etc. How many of these people have background checks prior to coming into our homes?

I have an idea that the phrase "weaker sex" was coined by some woman to disarm some man she was preparing to overwhelm. ~Ogden Nash



June 29, 2009
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Fully Loaded question there.

LOL I didn't mean it to be. I was just curious (the writer in me, always asking questions), not looking for names.

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June 29, 2009
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I think this is a great idea, but it makes me wonder about all the people we let into our homes; the pool guy, exterminators,

heating and air repairmen, etc. How many of these people have background checks prior to coming into our homes?

Well – I actually ask about background checks with a lot of the people who come into my home. Some companies even advertise that all of their employees are fully background checks. Free marketplace – seems that people who place a value on service from people who are background checked will hire such people. Others who don't have such a concern won't. So maybe the answer is not to require it, but to educate people about whether or not they need to and care to know who is coming into their homes, and then they can decide what level of priority it takes in a free market.

June 29, 2009
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Well – I actually ask about background checks with a lot of the people who come into my home. Some companies even advertise that all of their employees are fully background checks. Free marketplace – seems that people who place a value on service from people who are background checked will hire such people. Others who don't have such a concern won't. So maybe the answer is not to require it, but to educate people about whether or not they need to and care to know who is coming into their homes, and then they can decide what level of priority it takes in a free market.

I just watched something about this. One of the news shows had gone undercover with Kirby Vacuum dealers who, as a company, claim to do background checks on all their employees. What they found was pretty scary. Salesmen were getting high and drinking in route to their sales appointments and many had serious criminal records. When the owners of the dealerships were confronted with the tape of their salesmen getting high and drunk while driving they were asked to show proof that they had indeed done a background check….they couldn't. In most cases they had not done the background check at all.

So I wonder if just asking is really enough. /dry.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Laugh' />

I have an idea that the phrase "weaker sex" was coined by some woman to disarm some man she was preparing to overwhelm. ~Ogden Nash



June 29, 2009
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I just watched something about this. One of the news shows had gone undercover with Kirby Vacuum dealers who, as a company, claim to do background checks on all their employees. What they found was pretty scary. Salesmen were getting high and drinking in route to their sales appointments and many had serious criminal records. When the owners of the dealerships were confronted with the tape of their salesmen getting high and drunk while driving they were asked to show proof that they had indeed done a background check….they couldn't. In most cases they had not done the background check at all.

So I wonder if just asking is really enough. /dry.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Laugh' />

I guess you'd have to define background check. Are they counting asking "are you cool" as checking? I see it advertised a lot with cleaning/maid services around here.

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June 29, 2009
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I just watched something about this. One of the news shows had gone undercover with Kirby Vacuum dealers who, as a company, claim to do background checks on all their employees. What they found was pretty scary. Salesmen were getting high and drinking in route to their sales appointments and many had serious criminal records. When the owners of the dealerships were confronted with the tape of their salesmen getting high and drunk while driving they were asked to show proof that they had indeed done a background check….they couldn't. In most cases they had not done the background check at all.

So I wonder if just asking is really enough. /dry.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Laugh' />

And that's why I never let anyone in my house if I'm not here,

and I'm never alone. If I have someone coming to do work I

make sure my oldest son is here too. You just never know.

I like how Ryan's group does it. Having the home owner there,

it's smart for both parties involved; the home owner and the investigators.

June 29, 2009
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Unfortunately, we can't police the world for honesty. Yep – asking "what kind of background check" definitely seems prudent. But once you've done my due diligence to see who is coming into your home, I still wouldn't leave and just hope for the best. No one is in my home when Jim and I aren't. And no one is around my child that either I haven't fully vetted or the school hasn't fully vetted. Granted, you can't control everything, but you do your best to keep yourself, your home and your family safe.

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