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So it seems that our "wonderful" Government has done it again! They have barred federal funding to Planned Parenthood. That's over 300 MILLION dollars in funding. Now, regardless of your opinion on abortion ( this is NOT what my post is about) PP does A LOT of good for women. They do STD testing, pregnancy testing, counseling, birth control….more than just abortions. And they should have funding to continue.
PP has an open letter to Congress asking them to stop this. I urge every woman and man to sign it. Sign it for your daughters, sister, nieces, cousins…any female could be affected by this. They also have a link to pass it on to someone, email it to anyone who might be interested.
This is just another step in the Government's subjugation of women, IMO.
Here is an article about the funding being cut. As you can see from the article, PP can't even use Federal money for abortion services, so they are really hurting women. Article
Quote from the article: Planned Parenthood is already prevented by federal law from using federal dollars for abortion services. The amendment takes away the money they use to provide for family planning, birth control, medical and preventive services.
IMO, this is so wrong. Decide for yourself.
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I agree with you, cutting funding for this program is absurd. It helps both men and women in so many areas. They even give free referrals to other medical services. They help both men and women with std testing and awareness, as well as yes birth control, but also parenting classes and referrals to help programs for them. Its really a great place. And as you stated they already cant use the money for abortions!!!! They dont even perform them. Seriously if you want one you cannot get one through/at planned parenthood. The most they can do is give you information about that. I think the women in congress (I forget which one) that stood up and told them she had an abortion and if those "republican men" (her words) thought the decision is made just on a whim or with no thought they are dead wrong. And she is right, to even get one you have to go through a counseling session of sorts to make sure your ready for it and have considered everything.
So leave Planned Parenthood alone! If they dont help the teens that cant talk to their parents, or the adults that have no where else to turn to, who will? Certainly not the people trying to take their funding. All we can hope is that it doesnt go all the way (they still have one more to pass).
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I have been rendered nearly inarticulate by this. Do you realize the House of Representatives is over 80 percent men?
Sorry – that's the best I can do now. Please go to Planned Parenthood and sign their letter to the Senate.
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I agree with you, cutting funding for this program is absurd. It helps both men and women in so many areas. They even give free referrals to other medical services. They help both men and women with std testing and awareness, as well as yes birth control, but also parenting classes and referrals to help programs for them. Its really a great place. And as you stated they already cant use the money for abortions!!!! They dont even perform them. Seriously if you want one you cannot get one through/at planned parenthood. The most they can do is give you information about that. I think the women in congress (I forget which one) that stood up and told them she had an abortion and if those "republican men" (her words) thought the decision is made just on a whim or with no thought they are dead wrong. And she is right, to even get one you have to go through a counseling session of sorts to make sure your ready for it and have considered everything.
So leave Planned Parenthood alone! If they dont help the teens that cant talk to their parents, or the adults that have no where else to turn to, who will? Certainly not the people trying to take their funding. All we can hope is that it doesnt go all the way (they still have one more to pass).
One of the problems that PP faces is MISINFORMATION! People assume the worst of PP and go from there.
I have been rendered nearly inarticulate by this. Do you realize the House of Representatives is over 80 percent men?
Sorry – that's the best I can do now. Please go to Planned Parenthood and sign their letter to the Senate.
80% is astronomical. How can we ever effect change when women don't have a voice in the House? It's absolutely absurd.
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I have been rendered nearly inarticulate by this. Do you realize the House of Representatives is over 80 percent men?
Sorry – that's the best I can do now. Please go to Planned Parenthood and sign their letter to the Senate.
Honestly I think Planned Parenthood said it best in their open letter to congress (and I applaud them!)
"AN OPEN LETTER TO CONGRESS
To the members of the House of Representatives who voted for the Pence Amendment to H.R. 1:
How could you?
How could you betray millions of women — and men, and teens — who rely on Planned Parenthood for basic health care?
How could you condemn countless women in this country to undiagnosed cancer, unintended pregnancies, and untreated illnesses?
Your vote was not only against those who seek care at Planned Parenthood health centers, but against every one of us who has ever sought care there, and against every one of us who knows that when we are healthy, when we are in charge of our lives, we thrive.
It was a vote against me.
To every senator who will soon consider this legislation:
I stand with Planned Parenthood to say to you: STOP THIS.
I stand with Planned Parenthood and the hundreds of thousands of people from every walk of life and every corner of this country who join me in signing this letter to tell you that we will fight this bill and we expect you to do the same.
I stand with and for the millions of women, men, and teens who rely on Planned Parenthood, and I expect you to do the same.
To every member of Congress, know that we stand together today against this outrageous assault, and together we will not lose."
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I may not be as inarticulate on this as I claim. Apparently my poor husband and son had to listen to me rant at dinner last night. Tonight we're having a chick power and kid gathering at my house totally unrelated to the PP thing, but my guess is I won't be inarticulate then, either.
I actually said to Jim last night, "I am so glad we don't have girls if this is the way the country is going."
It is beyond absurd. I mean really – set the whole abortion thing aside for a moment. Planned Parenthood provides treatment and screening completely unrelated to abortion for women and girls who can't afford it any other way. It saves lives.
On a unrelated (?) and yet very ironic note, a Republican representative has proposed legislation to fund birth control for wild horses. Glad to know that wild horses will be allowed family planning while human females will not. Can you say barefoot and pregnant?
Must stop or the soapbox will get smashed. I am truly and deeply angered and disturbed by the arrogance of the conservative male whackjobs in Congress who think they even have a say over women's reproductive rights or health.
BTW – I am a moderate – neither liberal nor conservative. Certainly there are others like me in this country? Where the Hell is our representation???
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This is the most asinine thing to cross legislation in my lifetime!!! How can they do that? My daughter goes to PP for birth control, and a while back she had a std scare, they tested her and found her healthy thank God. She didnt have the money to pay for a Dr and they didnt charge her a thing! If she hadnt had that opportunity she coulndt have gone to the Dr, she ha no insurance and already owes money to the Dr. Dont they get that without the free birth control, these women could end up costing the country MORE money? with out the STD testing they could be costing the country more than money! Oh this is just insane.
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This is the most asinine thing to cross legislation in my lifetime!!! How can they do that? My daughter goes to PP for birth control, and a while back she had a std scare, they tested her and found her healthy thank God. She didnt have the money to pay for a Dr and they didnt charge her a thing! If she hadnt had that opportunity she coulndt have gone to the Dr, she ha no insurance and already owes money to the Dr. Dont they get that without the free birth control, these women could end up costing the country MORE money? with out the STD testing they could be costing the country more than money! Oh this is just insane.
No not insane. Totally logical. I mean really, do we want to go back to women having back alley abortions due to not being able to get some birth control! Or have STD's rage out of control due to not being able to afford a simple test? Seriously most STDs are curable if caught in time. If not, then more people infected and death. Sounds like the republicans want some population control? Ok maybe not that far but come on! Planned Parenthood never hurt anybody (no not even those fetuses your "protecting" they dont give abortions!!). Lets not forget they also test for cervical cancer!! Yep if you cant afford your yearly pap then PP gives you one for free! Lets do away with that huh? I mean come on…should only people that can afford these things be able to have the comfort of knowing they will be alright?
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Last night, Jim said, "They'd just as soon you went back to being property."
How is it that extremist at both ends of the spectrum somehow gained control of our government? Surely Jim and I can't be the only political moderates with any sense of common sense. Can we?
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Last night, Jim said, "They'd just as soon you went back to being property."
How is it that extremist at both ends of the spectrum somehow gained control of our government? Surely Jim and I can't be the only political moderates with any sense of common sense. Can we?
Of course you're not, but unless and until people aren't afraid to stand up and be heard, this kind of crap will continue.
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I am so effin sick of people in power screwing stuff like this up. It is so stupid to stop funding for an obviously important organization like Planned Parenthood! Yes, I have used their services and I know many others whose lives would have drastically changed if PP had not existed. These stupid Republicans do not have a God damned clue what it is like to live as an average person in this country. If they think that taking away the funding from PP will help them make a point about Obamacare, then they are way off track. I am insulted as a woman, a mother of two young woman and as a taxpayer. I signed the letter and shared it with my friends and family. I was happy to see that some of my PUG family feels just as incensed as I do. Now, to contact my state's leaders…
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These stupid Republicans do not have a God damned clue what it is like to live as an average person in this country.
You mean stupid Republicans like me?
i was just going to ignore this post, but now it's personal, so I will speak up and take the hit for everyone else who may disagree with this point of view.
First, I would like to say that I do not think that a paranormal site is the proper place for a discussion on this topic.
Having said that, I would just like to point out that no one should be forced to donate to an organization that they find morally repugnant, which is exactly what happens when my tax dollars go to PP. I am forced to support this organization which then spends $10 Million plus a year through their PAC lobbying Congress to pass laws that I oppose and contributing to pro-choice/pro-abortion candidates. So, they are able to use my own money against me. This forces me to donate money to other organizations and candidates. In effect, I have to pay to cancel out my own money. It's ridiculous and wrong.
No matter what else they do, Planned Parenthood Affiliate Health Centers performed 324,008 abortions in 2008 (the last year that I could find numbers for). The 53% of Americans who think that abortion is morally wrong shouldn't be forced to donate to this group any more than you should be forced to donate to a pro-life/anti-abortion organization, or any other organization for that matter.
I would like to point out to those who are so worried about "women's health" that at least half of those aborted fetuses were female, so 162, 000+ women had their health VERY negatively impacted by PP in 2008 alone. I would also like to point out that PP made only 2,405 adoption referrals that same year, meaning they performed 134 abortions for every adoption referral. Of course, at $300 to $600 each, abortions are a whole lot more profitable.
Giving my tax money to PP and then telling me that it doesn't support abortion is like forcing me to donate to the Nazi party and then assuring me that my money won't go toward anti-semitic activities.
Furthermore, PP workers have been caught numerous times failing to abide by laws requiring disclosure of statutory rape or sexual abuse and flouting parental notification laws. Just this month here in NJ a "health worker" in a PP clinic was caught giving advice to a self-admitted pimp on how to get his girls and himself tested for STDs for free at the health department. Now, isn't that what our $300 million in tax money is supposed to go toward? They make excuses every time they are busted, but there clearly is a nationwide pattern of non-compliance with reporting laws. Watch the videos on you tube if you don't believe me.
Personally, I suggest that PP supporters throw all of their indignation into fundraising efforts. That way you can replace the money that PP will (hopefully) no longer be getting from tax payers like me. Also, PP could start cutting some of their expenditures. I suggest they start by cutting out campaign donations and lobbying activities and reduce the head of their organization's salary. In its fiscal year that ended on June 30, 2008, PP paid its president $385,163, plus another $11,876 in benefits and deferred compensation.
And before you blast me for being anti-woman, let me assure you that no one is more pro-woman than I. I just happen to believe that the smallest and most vulnerable women have rights, too. So flame away.
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You mean stupid Republicans like me?
i was just going to ignore this post, but now it's personal, so I will speak up and take the hit for everyone else who may disagree with this point of view.
First, I would like to say that I do not think that a paranormal site is the proper place for a discussion on this topic.
Having said that, I would just like to point out that no one should be forced to donate to an organization that they find morally repugnant, which is exactly what happens when my tax dollars go to PP. I am forced to support this organization which then spends $10 Million plus a year through their PAC lobbying Congress to pass laws that I oppose and contributing to pro-choice/pro-abortion candidates. So, they are able to use my own money against me. This forces me to donate money to other organizations and candidates. In effect, I have to pay to cancel out my own money. It's ridiculous and wrong.
No matter what else they do, Planned Parenthood Affiliate Health Centers performed 324,008 abortions in 2008 (the last year that I could find numbers for). The 53% of Americans who think that abortion is morally wrong shouldn't be forced to donate to this group any more than you should be forced to donate to a pro-life/anti-abortion organization, or any other organization for that matter.
I would like to point out to those who are so worried about "women's health" that at least half of those aborted fetuses were female, so 162, 000+ women had their health VERY negatively impacted by PP in 2008 alone. I would also like to point out that PP made only 2,405 adoption referrals that same year, meaning they performed 134 abortions for every adoption referral. Of course, at $300 to $600 each, abortions are a whole lot more profitable.
Giving my tax money to PP and then telling me that it doesn't support abortion is like forcing me to donate to the Nazi party and then assuring me that my money won't go toward anti-semitic activities.
Furthermore, PP workers have been caught numerous times failing to abide by laws requiring disclosure of statutory rape or sexual abuse and flouting parental notification laws. Just this month here in NJ a "health worker" in a PP clinic was caught giving advice to a self-admitted pimp on how to get his girls and himself tested for STDs for free at the health department. Now, isn't that what our $300 million in tax money is supposed to go toward? They make excuses every time they are busted, but there clearly is a nationwide pattern of non-compliance with reporting laws. Watch the videos on you tube if you don't believe me.
Personally, I suggest that PP supporters throw all of their indignation into fundraising efforts. That way you can replace the money that PP will (hopefully) no longer be getting from tax payers like me. Also, PP could start cutting some of their expenditures. I suggest they start by cutting out campaign donations and lobbying activities and reduce the head of their organization's salary. In its fiscal year that ended on June 30, 2008, PP paid its president $385,163, plus another $11,876 in benefits and deferred compensation.
And before you blast me for being anti-woman, let me assure you that no one is more pro-woman than I. I just happen to believe that the smallest and most vulnerable women have rights, too. So flame away.
Saying that this topic shouldn't be discussed here isn't right. That's why I put it in OFF TOPIC.
Do you support murders and rapists getting medical treatment? Because hey, our tax dollars go to prison systems too. Just pointing that out.
And as stated in the OP, PP doesn't use Federal money for abortions. It uses that money for several other, very important things.
You are entitled to your opinion. In fact, it's good to see that you are willing to stand up and be heard, even when it goes against the majority. Please, continue to do so. More people need too. No blasting from me, just thought provoking conversation, I hope.
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If this becomes a flame war, we will simply lock the thread and no further discussion will be allowed. Despite our hysterical media in this country, I believe that people can debate political issues without personal attacks or flaming. We don't have to be rude to disagree with one another.
Please keep conversation respectful or I will be all over it and quickly. Regardless of someone's beliefs, there is no reason to ever flame. I trust that we are all adults here and can proceed respectfully.
Thank you.
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If this becomes a flame war, we will simply lock the thread and no further discussion will be allowed. Despite our hysterical media in this country, I believe that people can debate political issues without personal attacks or flaming. We don't have to be rude to disagree with one another.
Please keep conversation respectful or I will be all over it and quickly. Regardless of someone's beliefs, there is no reason to ever flame. I trust that we are all adults here and can proceed respectfully.
Thank you.
I absolutely agree,and if it does become like that, please do lock the thread.
As I stated in the OP this post is NOT about abortion, it's about taking away valuable funding for women with low income to find medical care.
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You mean stupid Republicans like me?
i was just going to ignore this post, but now it's personal, so I will speak up and take the hit for everyone else who may disagree with this point of view.
First, I would like to say that I do not think that a paranormal site is the proper place for a discussion on this topic.
Having said that, I would just like to point out that no one should be forced to donate to an organization that they find morally repugnant, which is exactly what happens when my tax dollars go to PP. I am forced to support this organization which then spends $10 Million plus a year through their PAC lobbying Congress to pass laws that I oppose and contributing to pro-choice/pro-abortion candidates. So, they are able to use my own money against me. This forces me to donate money to other organizations and candidates. In effect, I have to pay to cancel out my own money. It's ridiculous and wrong.
No matter what else they do, Planned Parenthood Affiliate Health Centers performed 324,008 abortions in 2008 (the last year that I could find numbers for). The 53% of Americans who think that abortion is morally wrong shouldn't be forced to donate to this group any more than you should be forced to donate to a pro-life/anti-abortion organization, or any other organization for that matter.
I would like to point out to those who are so worried about "women's health" that at least half of those aborted fetuses were female, so 162, 000+ women had their health VERY negatively impacted by PP in 2008 alone. I would also like to point out that PP made only 2,405 adoption referrals that same year, meaning they performed 134 abortions for every adoption referral. Of course, at $300 to $600 each, abortions are a whole lot more profitable.
Giving my tax money to PP and then telling me that it doesn't support abortion is like forcing me to donate to the Nazi party and then assuring me that my money won't go toward anti-semitic activities.
Furthermore, PP workers have been caught numerous times failing to abide by laws requiring disclosure of statutory rape or sexual abuse and flouting parental notification laws. Just this month here in NJ a "health worker" in a PP clinic was caught giving advice to a self-admitted pimp on how to get his girls and himself tested for STDs for free at the health department. Now, isn't that what our $300 million in tax money is supposed to go toward? They make excuses every time they are busted, but there clearly is a nationwide pattern of non-compliance with reporting laws. Watch the videos on you tube if you don't believe me.
Personally, I suggest that PP supporters throw all of their indignation into fundraising efforts. That way you can replace the money that PP will (hopefully) no longer be getting from tax payers like me. Also, PP could start cutting some of their expenditures. I suggest they start by cutting out campaign donations and lobbying activities and reduce the head of their organization's salary. In its fiscal year that ended on June 30, 2008, PP paid its president $385,163, plus another $11,876 in benefits and deferred compensation.
And before you blast me for being anti-woman, let me assure you that no one is more pro-woman than I. I just happen to believe that the smallest and most vulnerable women have rights, too. So flame away.
Im not going to "flame" you but I will say this. You wrongly suggest they use "your" tax money for abortions. This is illegal and they have PROOF that they are nto in fact using ANY tax payer money for this. Their books are gone over with a fine tooth comb so if they were I assure you they would have been shut down. I also want to point out how your wrongly accuse them of pushing abortions for the money. Sorry but again look into their practices. Any money for abortions that is used through DONATIONS is only to cover costs. They get NOTHING for doing abortions over adoptions. Im not flaming but I AM however informing. So in this horrible economy yes lets go to purely fundraising….because so many people can afford this right? So Im sorry you feel it bad that your money goes to STD testing that protects you and your loved ones. Truly I am. And that it prevents you from paying MORE to support these children once they get dumped off into the misguided foster care system (that is a wreck, you should check out the travesties happening in THAT program). Or, god forbid, thrown in some dumpster! At least these people are offering an alternative which is giving out some condoms and pills. Im sorry they take your money for cancer screenings. I suppose your right. Lets not let people get tested for HIV. I mean they are hookers right, so someones brother/father/friend deserves the HIV they get because these women simply didnt know. And since he didnt know he will pass it on to someone daughter/mother/cousin/friend. AND lets not forget the abortions that are preformed to SAVE the mother. Most times when the baby WILL (medically proved WILL) die anyway. Yes lets let her die off just because. And lets let the poor college kids, retired, or single mother get cancer because they could afford their PAP and now had no where to turn. Im sorry but it angered me to see some misinformation in your post stating why this service that does SAVE LIVES should be thrown away and maybe they can "survive" on donations even though no one is doing well right now. But all the people they CANT serve because that money just didnt go far enough….I suppose those people dont matter.
I used them once. I did my usual PAP and the results were concerning. They thought I maybe positive. I needed a retest but could not afford it. I was so stressed and just didnt know what would happen if I was positive. I went to planned parenthood. Not only did they retest me FOR FREE, they offered me counseling and referrals incase it did come back positive. All at no cost. They were wonderful, I dont know what I would have done without them. For the retest that confirmed I was alright, and for their caring and "we can get through this" attitude. They even showed me referrals for the best treatment even if I couldnt afford thousands in medical bills.
But these things get pushed aside with misinformation and "well people that matter dont really need this service". 3 republicans voted against this. And I applaud them for not just following party lines and using their brains. Both republican and democrat presidents have kept this program. If it was "so horrible" then it wouldnt still be around and funded. I think a lot of education needs to be done before people start spouting off "facts" and get others to jump on the band wagon.
Would I ever get an abortion? No. So you cant say I just want that funding to continue (even though the government does not fund it). But that is not what the program is about. So you disagree with one (legal) aspect. So everything else, the majority, that SAVES LIVES (yes I will say that because it does), all that can just go correct? Because of one minor part? Im sorry I know we NEED this program. And I will say NEED.
And while this maybe a paranormal site, there are discussions on MANY things here. I think to say "Now really this one topic if you stray at all bad you" is very closed minded. Especially on such an important issue. This is in off topic. If we were only ment to be on the topic of paranormal, this forum would not exist.
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You mean stupid Republicans like me?
i was just going to ignore this post, but now it's personal, so I will speak up and take the hit for everyone else who may disagree with this point of view.
First, I would like to say that I do not think that a paranormal site is the proper place for a discussion on this topic.
Having said that, I would just like to point out that no one should be forced to donate to an organization that they find morally repugnant, which is exactly what happens when my tax dollars go to PP. I am forced to support this organization which then spends $10 Million plus a year through their PAC lobbying Congress to pass laws that I oppose and contributing to pro-choice/pro-abortion candidates. So, they are able to use my own money against me. This forces me to donate money to other organizations and candidates. In effect, I have to pay to cancel out my own money. It's ridiculous and wrong.
No matter what else they do, Planned Parenthood Affiliate Health Centers performed 324,008 abortions in 2008 (the last year that I could find numbers for). The 53% of Americans who think that abortion is morally wrong shouldn't be forced to donate to this group any more than you should be forced to donate to a pro-life/anti-abortion organization, or any other organization for that matter.
I would like to point out to those who are so worried about "women's health" that at least half of those aborted fetuses were female, so 162, 000+ women had their health VERY negatively impacted by PP in 2008 alone. I would also like to point out that PP made only 2,405 adoption referrals that same year, meaning they performed 134 abortions for every adoption referral. Of course, at $300 to $600 each, abortions are a whole lot more profitable.
Giving my tax money to PP and then telling me that it doesn't support abortion is like forcing me to donate to the Nazi party and then assuring me that my money won't go toward anti-semitic activities.
Furthermore, PP workers have been caught numerous times failing to abide by laws requiring disclosure of statutory rape or sexual abuse and flouting parental notification laws. Just this month here in NJ a "health worker" in a PP clinic was caught giving advice to a self-admitted pimp on how to get his girls and himself tested for STDs for free at the health department. Now, isn't that what our $300 million in tax money is supposed to go toward? They make excuses every time they are busted, but there clearly is a nationwide pattern of non-compliance with reporting laws. Watch the videos on you tube if you don't believe me.
Personally, I suggest that PP supporters throw all of their indignation into fundraising efforts. That way you can replace the money that PP will (hopefully) no longer be getting from tax payers like me. Also, PP could start cutting some of their expenditures. I suggest they start by cutting out campaign donations and lobbying activities and reduce the head of their organization's salary. In its fiscal year that ended on June 30, 2008, PP paid its president $385,163, plus another $11,876 in benefits and deferred compensation.
And before you blast me for being anti-woman, let me assure you that no one is more pro-woman than I. I just happen to believe that the smallest and most vulnerable women have rights, too. So flame away.
Wow, you did your homework and have made some important points. I must admit that when I put in my two cents I was reacting from a totally emotional and defensive point of view. By saying "stupid Republicans" I was being selfish in that in my opinion it is crazy to stop this funding and I disagree with the republicans who are behind it. I completely respect your opinions about Planned Parenthood and also how you would like your tax dollars spent. You have shared your thoughts and I can only respond that there will be no flames coming from me because we are all entitled to our own beliefs and opinions. There are always two sides to every issue and I appreciate that you brought up the other side. For me, PP was there for me when I needed it and I will always be grateful for their services. I guess that makes it personal for me and thus why I reacted so defensively right off the bat. I do wonder about my tax dollars being spent on things that I think are morally repugnant (like the war in Iraq, for example) and it really makes me crazy that I can't change this. Thanks again for speaking up for the other side of the coin. Good information, thanks for sharing.
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Yes, please, as Karen said, we can discuss this topic here respectfully with one another.
No name-calling. No disrespecting each other please. But debating the issue is OK.
We do allow all topics to be discussed on PUG, regardless if they are paranormal-related or not … as long as we do it with mutual respect.
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Personally, I am saddened by this ruling. It's a travesty IMO.
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We here at Paranormal Underground don't like to dictate what can or can't be talked about in our forums. I think this discussion is in the right place (Off Topic). That being said, we need to be mindful of the beliefs and views of others, on both sides of the argument, and as long as we can discuss this, or any topic for that matter, with respect, then there should be no reason to close the thread. So, discuss and have fun. You never know, you might learn something new in the process.
As far as Planned Parenthood is concerned, you don't go against the whole thing because of some bad apples. If there are those who flout the law, then do something about them. Don't punish everyone because of the bad people.
I guess in a perfect world we could determine where are tax dollars go. I'm sure there are plenty of other agendas out there being pushed that I, or someone else does not like. Some examples: water boarding, wire tapping, and holding detainees without due process of law. I could go on and on, but I hope you get my point. All those were done using my taxpayer dollars by my government, and I am against all of it.
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SAYING THAT THIS TOPIC SHOULDN'T BE DISCUSSED HERE ISN'T RIGHT. THAT'S WHY I PUT IT IN OFF TOPIC.
Okay, I stand corrected.
DO YOU SUPPORT MURDERS AND RAPISTS GETTING MEDICAL TREATMENT? BECAUSE HEY, OUR TAX DOLLARS GO TO PRISON SYSTEMS TOO. JUST POINTING THAT OUT.
Yes, but prisoners don't have a PAC that uses my money to lobby against me. I would have much less of an issue with being forced to donate to PP if they 1) did not engage in lobbying, 2) did not make campaign donations, and 3) did not play an active role in developing legislation.
AND AS STATED IN THE OP, PP DOESN'T USE FEDERAL MONEY FOR ABORTIONS. IT USES THAT MONEY FOR SEVERAL OTHER, VERY IMPORTANT THINGS.
PP may not use our tax money to abort babies per se but our taxes buy and maintain their offices, pay for their personnel, and pay for the counseling that leads to the abortion. So PP tells us tax payers that we aren't financing abortions, we're just paying for the office space, the personnel, and the pre-abortion counseling. I'm sorry, but that just does not relieve my mind.
YOU ARE ENTITLED TO YOUR OPINION. IN FACT, IT'S GOOD TO SEE THAT YOU ARE WILLING TO STAND UP AND BE HEARD, EVEN WHEN IT GOES AGAINST THE MAJORITY. PLEASE, CONTINUE TO DO SO. MORE PEOPLE NEED TOO. NO BLASTING FROM ME, JUST THOUGHT PROVOKING CONVERSATION, I HOPE.
No blasting from me, either. I just though that someone should speak up on behalf of the "stupid Republicans".
(I apologize for putting your quotes in caps but I couldn't get the quotes to work. Sorry!)
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