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OfflineWell, I think equal rights and partnership in everything! But there are somethings the other one does simply because whomever (not just gender) wont do. Like my boyfriend. He's the one up on the roof lol. He's the one doing the extra nasty jobs. I'll pick up dried puppy poop but a cat messes out of the litter box *shudders* that is just wrong. On the flip side, I decide where things are placed in the house lol, he has no clue. He moves heavy things unless it takes two and we both give the animals baths together and do our laundry together. I usually put it up though. Ect, ect lol could go on forever. But an ex or mine used to do all the cleaning. Wouldn't let me touch it. Which was fine with me /tongue.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' /> But you get the idea. Women should serve in the same capcity as men in the military but with the same gudlines. The men have to be a certain strenght for safety and so should the women. They should carry the same size pack, ect. Don't lighten the load for them. I went through basic and they sure didn't for me. And that was just fine. As for a certain something every month getting in the way. Generations of women have gotten along fine. Think of the Amazon women. Pure women warriors and they I'm sure had it and still beat men. Death penalty (if it must happen) kill them equally. It's not fair otherwise. In that case the same for sentancing. Same pay, same positions, ect. There will always be somethings that wont change to equal ( you can't fight it), but most things you can and should.
P.S. I had a guy who tried that take care of the kids even if working 40 hours I might help you with the house sometimes. HA! Well lets just say he didn't last and look who still begs to be back. (even though he said he must be in control). Equality must be. Someone always looses otherwise.
OfflineThere will always be somethings that wont change to equal ( you can't fight it), but most things you can and should.
Out of curiosity, what things would those be?
OfflineSo, with the recent story in the news about the Heene family, aka Balloon Boy, details about how Mrs. Heene did all the housework have emerged. This brings up an interesting topic and one that I would be interested in hearing opinions about: Equal rights and feminism.
Should a woman be the caretaker in the house, staying home from work and caring for the children and doing the housework while the man of the family goes out and makes the money? If one adult works and the other doesnt I dont see why the one at home shouldnt do the housework and child care while they are there, while they are both at home of course they should share in it.whether it needs to be the male or the female on either side, doesnt matter to me at all.
Is the man the head of the household?dNo, not at all that is an equal partnership
Is it right that women make 77 cents to every dollar a man makes?I dont understand why anyone should be paid based on their gender
Should a woman be in the military, on the front lines and dying for her country, like a man?sure, everyone in the military should be doing equal duty
Should women on death row be killed for her crimes just like a man?yep, you do the crime you do the time.not so much a fan of the death penalty though, just think both sexes should have the same punishment
I know that this topic is very subjective, however, it is a prevalent topic in our society today. I welcome all opinions, not just on these examples, but on any others that you have an opinion about.
OfflineSo this morning, while getting ready for work, I heard a very interesting commercial for Verizon phones.
The announcer comes on and reminds guys that V Day is coming up. He proceeds to tell the male listeners that even if his girl has said that she doesn't want anything, she's telling a lie. He says, "and not a fib, a BALD-FACED lie." He closes it out by saying that guys definitely should get there girl something because that's what she wants, "and with a pretty bow too" he closes.
Now, I'm half tempted to shoot off a blistering email to Verizon for stereotyping women.
I will say this, Verizon won't be getting one cent from me, not if I can help it. If I had any Verizon services, this would make me switch.
Has anyone else heard this commercial? Thoughts?
OfflineWell I guess no Verizon for us! lol lol. I'm in full agreement with you. The whole thing puts women in a bad light because it implies that the man must please his "princess" whether she says it or not. What a croc!! Talk about Madison Avenue manipulation. Makes women sound like liars and men sound "cheap" if they give into the debauchery of this "holiday". Before you know it someone will tell me that jesus was actually born on February 14th so we can turn it into a full blown Madison Avenue party.
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i think we take things a wee bit too seriously sometimes. i mean, it's a freakin' commercial for pete's sake, not a sociology class. i guess there was a time things like this might have bothered me but they just don't so much anymore.
when it comes down to it, if a marriage/relationship isn't a partnership it won't last long, imho. UNLESS both parties are happy with one stronger than the other. i have known it to work: the husband in both cases was a fundamentalist xtian minister married to the daughter of a xtian fundamentalist minister. the roles they followed were deeply ingrained. the main rebellion noticed was from the sons of the families. the daughters not so much.
i think the military gives a lot of talk re: equal treatment, but one hears about a lot of sexual harassment going on so i have to wonder how much is lip service.
i know this isn't going to be popular, but i don't think you can take gender out of things completely. i am a better mother than my husband would be. he is a better father-figure than i could be. men and women do tend to think differently. during cait's illness and after her passing this became more and more to the forefront. bill still wants to know the why's of it more than i do. every woman i know dealing with the death of a child deals with this with her husband. it drives the men to distraction, the why's. and they want to fix our pain, even tho it is impossible. they feel impotent that they cannot do anything to take away our pain and it adds to their grief.
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OfflineI suppose there are generalizations in everything, and "common reactions", but nothing in life is 100%
My grandfather was the best "mother" I could have ever asked for.
Wouldnt have traded that for anything.
As for my daughter's father, I dont ever remember him asking "why?"
All I do remember strongly is him coming in the bedroom a few days
later crying. The phone had rung a few minutes earlier. He walked in,
looked at me and said "why does everyone ask how you're doing, but
no one asks how I'm doing?" I've never forgot that, the father is hurting
as much as the mother, and I remember to always speak to him and
offer him any comfort I can, as well as the mother. Maybe he wont
need that, but you just never know.
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i think we take things a wee bit too seriously sometimes. i mean, it's a freakin' commercial for pete's sake, not a sociology class. i guess there was a time things like this might have bothered me but they just don't so much anymore.
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I understand that it's only a commercial, however, it plays into every whiny, self-serving stereotype pointed at women. I wouldn't generalize all men as grunting, drolling sports fanatics, and I don't want to be generalized as a greedy princess who pouts when she doesn't get her way.
These types of things only serve to perpetuate this kind of thinking, and that's what sickens me about it.
OfflineI usually get Monkette the incredibly unimaginative mondo box of See's Milk Chocolate assortment and a couple dozen roses. I usually get her something small as well, like a few dvds and/or cds I know she wants (know matter how humiliating it is to pick up for overly trendy reasons).
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OfflineWe dont do Valentines Day here. Not at all. I dont care for the Holiday and it lets him off the hook. I have a friend that goes crazy on V-day and I dont get it. buying each other and the kids all this junk, flowers, teddy bears, etc. it just sits around and eventually gets ignored and thrown out. She used to buy me things for V-day because she felt sorry for me, she gave up when I told her I didnt want all that junk sitting around my house. I was nice about it, but I'm not lying I just dont do Valentines day!
OfflineWe dont do Valentines Day here. Not at all. I dont care for the Holiday and it lets him off the hook. I have a friend that goes crazy on V-day and I dont get it. buying each other and the kids all this junk, flowers, teddy bears, etc. it just sits around and eventually gets ignored and thrown out. She used to buy me things for V-day because she felt sorry for me, she gave up when I told her I didnt want all that junk sitting around my house. I was nice about it, but I'm not lying I just dont do Valentines day!
Hear, hear!!
OfflineI'm not big on many holidays. Christmas I think is the only one
I really go all out for. Even birthdays have never been a huge
deal in our house. Even anniversarys never really were. I cant
see wasting money especially on a card. My husband and I
would go to the store together and pick out a card for each
other and show it to each other in the store haha. Cheap?
perhaps, but what the hell, it saved a few bucks heehee
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