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OfflineWhile earthquakes can happen anywhere, some areas are much more likely to have a major event.
One of these areas is the New Madrid Seismic zone. Ten states could be affected by an earthquake there. They are Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Mississippi, Missouri, Oklahoma, South Carolina and Tennessee. People in the Mississippi and Ohio Valleys need to be especially concerned because their soil conditions will make the damage worse because of a thing called "amplification". Since my family lives in the Ohio River Valley, I am taking this very seriously and I hope everyone else does too. Since most buildings are not built to withstand earthquakes in this area a smaller earthquake will do more damage there than it would in some places so it's vital that people prepare themselves as much as possible.
If you live in one of these states, I really encourage you to sign up to participate in the Great Central US Shakeout event on April 28th. This is a drill to help people prepare for an earthquake and to learn what to do during and after a quake.
http://www.shakeout.org/centralus/
That website links to the FEMA website. FEMA is planning a national level exercise to prepare for a "New Madrid Seismic Zone episode" which shows how seriously they are taking this risk. There are events from May 16th through the 20th. These are available to the general public.
FEMA makes it very clear that removing people from the rubble will be a completely local responsibility for at least 72 hours. It's a safe bet that the initial focus will be on high occupancy buildings. Big cities like St. Louis and Memphis will probably get the lion's share of federal assistance since they will probably have the most casualties. That means that there may be no one else but you and whoever is around you to rescue your family, friends, neighbors, etc. It's a horrible, scary thought but it's the simple truth.
I encourage you to take CPR training, or better yet, Community Emergency Response Team (CERT) training. I did the CERT training when we lived in Utah and it was very, very good. We learned how to prepare ourselves and our families for the worst, how to safely search for people and safely rescue them from rubble, and how to triage the wounded and how to help the injured, etc. The training teaches you how to work as a team to be as efficient and effective as possible.
Rescuing people is much trickier than it sounds and many people are injured or killed trying to help someone else because they lack proper training. Not only is it empowering to be prepared, your family and your neighbors/coworkers lives may actually depend on it.
Telephone lines will be down. So will electricity. Even if you can manage to call for help, there simply will not be nearly enough to go around in a real emergency. If you compare the number of ambulances and emergency response personnel in your area with the local population, you will get a real sense of the scale of the problem. Also, roads and bridges may be out, making your area inaccessible to outside help.
One of the most important things to remember is that there is a very good chance you and your family will not be together if a quake hits, so you really need to have a plan for meeting up and you need to prepare your children to cope if you are away from them. It's really important also to make sure that your child's school or day care has a plan. Kids may have to stay where they are for some time. Are they prepared for that? Is your work place?
I don't want to scare anyone. I just want to bring this to everyone's attention and encourage everyone to participate. Preparation is the key to surviving any disaster.
Thanks for listening.
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OfflineWhile earthquakes can happen anywhere, some areas are much more likely to have a major event.
One of these areas is the New Madrid Seismic zone. Ten states could be affected by an earthquake there. They are Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Mississippi, Missouri, Oklahoma, South Carolina and Tennessee. People in the Mississippi and Ohio Valleys need to be especially concerned because their soil conditions will make the damage worse because of a thing called "amplification". Since my family lives in the Ohio River Valley, I am taking this very seriously and I hope everyone else does too. Since most buildings are not built to withstand earthquakes in this area a smaller earthquake will do more damage there than it would in some places so it's vital that people prepare themselves as much as possible.
If you live in one of these states, I really encourage you to sign up to participate in the Great Central US Shakeout event on April 28th. This is a drill to help people prepare for an earthquake and to learn what to do during and after a quake.
http://www.shakeout.org/centralus/
That website links to the FEMA website. FEMA is planning a national level exercise to prepare for a "New Madrid Seismic Zone episode" which shows how seriously they are taking this risk. There are events from May 16th through the 20th. These are available to the general public.
FEMA makes it very clear that removing people from the rubble will be a completely local responsibility for at least 72 hours. It's a safe bet that the initial focus will be on high occupancy buildings. Big cities like St. Louis and Memphis will probably get the lion's share of federal assistance since they will probably have the most casualties. That means that there may be no one else but you and whoever is around you to rescue your family, friends, neighbors, etc. It's a horrible, scary thought but it's the simple truth.
I encourage you to take CPR training, or better yet, Community Emergency Response Team (CERT) training. I did the CERT training when we lived in Utah and it was very, very good. We learned how to prepare ourselves and our families for the worst, how to safely search for people and safely rescue them from rubble, and how to triage the wounded and how to help the injured, etc. The training teaches you how to work as a team to be as efficient and effective as possible.
Rescuing people is much trickier than it sounds and many people are injured or killed trying to help someone else because they lack proper training. Not only is it empowering to be prepared, your family and your neighbors/coworkers lives may actually depend on it.
Telephone lines will be down. So will electricity. Even if you can manage to call for help, there simply will not be nearly enough to go around in a real emergency. If you compare the number of ambulances and emergency response personnel in your area with the local population, you will get a real sense of the scale of the problem. Also, roads and bridges may be out, making your area inaccessible to outside help.
One of the most important things to remember is that there is a very good chance you and your family will not be together if a quake hits, so you really need to have a plan for meeting up and you need to prepare your children to cope if you are away from them. It's really important also to make sure that your child's school or day care has a plan. Kids may have to stay where they are for some time. Are they prepared for that? Is your work place?
I don't want to scare anyone. I just want to bring this to everyone's attention and encourage everyone to participate. Preparation is the key to surviving any disaster.
Thanks for listening.
I've been reading and watching the seismic events in Arkansas. February has been very active. Experts have suggested that do to the lime stone, it won't take that large of an earthquake. Possibly just a 6 to render Kentucky useless. This area has been very active with 3's. Thanks for doing this thread, this something to take very serious, covers a very large area and major cities.
I write a weekly eGuide for a national disaster resource company and we just covered this event.
You are right, preparedness and just knowing the what to do any the different circumstances that can arise makes all the difference.
MK, have you watched Gasland? Very good docu on gas fracking. Since Cheney turned down the water protection bill, this is very serious.
People can light their faucet water on fire, and their well water is unsafe.
I strongly urge everyone to watch Gasland. Very well done, and an eye opener. The young guy who made his film, was nominated for an oscar in the docu field. Yes, I'm a tree hugger. Our streams and water effect everyone, on a daily basis!
OfflineI've been reading and watching the seismic events in Arkansas. February has been very active. Experts have suggested that do to the lime stone, it won't take that large of an earthquake. Possibly just a 6 to render Kentucky useless. This area has been very active with 3's. Thanks for doing this thread, this something to take very serious, covers a very large area and major cities.
MK, have you watched Gasland? Very good docu on gas fracking. Since Cheney turned down the water protection bill, this is very serious.
People can light their faucet water on fire, and their well water is unsafe.
I strongly urge everyone to watch Gasland. Very well done, and an eye opener. The young guy who made his film, was nominated for an oscar in the docu field. Yes, I'm a tree hugger. Our streams and water effect everyone, on a daily basis!
Symp … I have not seen Gasland, and it sounds very disturbing! I'm almost afraid to watch. LOL
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OfflineI've been reading and watching the seismic events in Arkansas. February has been very active. Experts have suggested that do to the lime stone, it won't take that large of an earthquake. Possibly just a 6 to render Kentucky useless. This area has been very active with 3's. Thanks for doing this thread, this something to take very serious, covers a very large area and major cities.
Now the Kentucky National Guard is getting ready. They held a drill this week to test their preparedness.
http://www.14wfie.com/story/79…..240/owensb…ttype=printable
It makes you wonder if the government knows something we don't, doesn't it? Of course, this is a no win situation. Don't prepare: get reamed by the media. Prepare: scare the sheep.
I grew up in western Ky and never even knew there was a major earthquake risk. There are occasional tremors but they are so small that you can't feel them so they don't make any impact. No one every talked about the New Madrid fault or the big quakes that happened in 1811 and 1812. We had lots of tornado drills in school but the earthquake risk was never even mentioned. Granted, tornados happen all the time and earthquakes are rare, but the results of even a medium quake will be much more devastating since such a large area will be damaged. Tornados strike a relatively small area – earthquakes can affect hundreds of miles of land. It will be so much worse because everyone is so unprepared. I'm sure that no one has earthquake insurance either, including my family.
It turns out our house here in NJ is very near a major fault, too. Didn't know that. I can't believe our mortgage company didn't force us to get earthquake insurance. We had to buy it in Utah. We had a quake here on Christmas Day and I never even knew. It was tiny, but you'd think someone would have mentioned it. It makes me wonder how many people who live on or near faults don't even know it? I sure didn't.
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OfflineY'all on the West coast don't even want to hear about the one that's going to effect extreme northern california straight up to alberta….
Are you talking about the Cascadia fault off shore? Holy cow, that's really scary, especially now that we've all seen what tsunamis can do.
I hope everyone on this board who lives on the Western Seaboard is prepared for the inevitable.
OfflineAre you talking about the Cascadia fault off shore? Holy cow, that's really scary, especially now that we've all seen what tsunamis can do.
I hope everyone on this board who lives on the Western Seaboard is prepared for the inevitable.
Actually I'm referring to the Juan de Fuca plate but the Cascadia Fault divides the JdF and North American plates…..it's way north of us in the bay, unfortunately, the northern most tip of the San Andreas fault is up in that nick of the woods and could have a widespread effect…not a pretty picture.
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OfflineThe geologist who predicted the 1989 quake in CA is predicting another CA quake on March 19th. Probably not true, but this guy has a pretty good track record so it wouldn't be a bad idea for all of you West Coast folks to stock up on food, water, batteries, etc. Just in case.
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Did the geologist say how big said earthquake will be???
OfflineThat's this Saturday!
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Did the geologist say how big said earthquake will be???
All I know is what is on the video.
It's interesting that this guy links earthquake activity with high tides caused by the full moon. This Saturday is actually the "super moon", when the full moon will be at it's closest to us. Other scientists mocked this geologist when he predicted the super bowl quake. He even had the date right, so they probably weren't laughing that day. Now they scoff again but who knows? I'm going to make sure we have plenty of water and food before Friday, just in case. After all, we live on a fault too.
It's interesting that the Japanese earthquake happened so close to the super moon. An astrologer predicted that this year's super moon would cause seismic activity, too, but he has been scorned by scientists as well.
Let's hope they are both wrong but prepare for the worst, just in case.
OfflineAll I know is what is on the video.
It's interesting that this guy links earthquake activity with high tides caused by the full moon. This Saturday is actually the "super moon", when the full moon will be at it's closest to us. Other scientists mocked this geologist when he predicted the super bowl quake. He even had the date right, so they probably weren't laughing that day. Now they scoff again but who knows? I'm going to make sure we have plenty of water and food before Friday, just in case. After all, we live on a fault too.
It's interesting that the Japanese earthquake happened so close to the super moon. An astrologer predicted that this year's super moon would cause seismic activity, too, but he has been scorned by scientists as well.
Let's hope they are both wrong but prepare for the worst, just in case.
Are you talking about the Loma Prieta aka World Series Earthquake in SF in 1989?
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OfflineAre you talking about the Loma Prieta aka World Series Earthquake in SF in 1989?
Yes. In the video he says the 19th is the date, but an online article gives a window.
I have no idea if he is right, but I would feel absolutely terrible if I didn't pass this information on to everyone and something did happen. I really hope we all have a good laugh about this prediction later.
Here's the article:
Former USGS Geologist Jim Berkland predicts major California quake
March 16, 2011 1:35 pm PT
TheWeatherSpace.com
- By Betty Johnson – Staff Writer
- Article Editor and Approved – Warren Miller
(TheWeatherSpace.com) -- Former USGS Geologist Jim Berkland predicts a major earthquake in California this month.
Berkland has been known to predict quakes, his best being the 'World Series' quake in the 80s in the San Francisco Bay area. Berkland even had a bet with a news publication that it would actually happen.
Berkland is now back with his strongest prediction since the 80s on what he is calling a major earthquake to strike California with a window between March 19th and 26th.
The geologist says that 'moon proximity' and 'fish deaths and beachings are signs of massive earthquakes.
Jim has been on Fox News, KFI, and many other networks voicing this warning to everyone that is listening to it. While USGS states quakes are not predictable, Berkland disagrees.
Click here for Berkland's Website
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OfflineI know I sound like a loser and a wimp but to be completely honest, I just wish I would be one of the first to go if a horrible disaster like this destroyed everything. Maybe if I knew people wouldn't be looting and killing for water and gasoline, I would be willing to make more of an effort to survive. Interesting that the Japanese have been very disciplined and fair when distributing supplies and helping out their neighbors. I think I read somewhere that there isn't even a word in their language comparable to "looting" because their culture just doesn't behave that way. Hope it continues to be civilized like that as time passes. I know too many people that just stockpile guns and ammo instead of water and food which tells me that they are only interested on taking control thru violence. I don't want to live in that world. I wouldn't do a hari- kari bit but for me, I just hope I am gone in an instant, no pain or fear, just poof!
OfflineI know I sound like a loser and a wimp but to be completely honest, I just wish I would be one of the first to go if a horrible disaster like this destroyed everything. Maybe if I knew people wouldn't be looting and killing for water and gasoline, I would be willing to make more of an effort to survive. Interesting that the Japanese have been very disciplined and fair when distributing supplies and helping out their neighbors. I think I read somewhere that there isn't even a word in their language comparable to "looting" because their culture just doesn't behave that way. Hope it continues to be civilized like that as time passes. I know too many people that just stockpile guns and ammo instead of water and food which tells me that they are only interested on taking control thru violence. I don't want to live in that world. I wouldn't do a hari- kari bit but for me, I just hope I am gone in an instant, no pain or fear, just poof!
I don't think this man is predicting a cataclysm. He's just predicting a sizable earthquake, like California has had many times before. He certainly didn't say anything about a tidal wave, etc.
I hope you change your mind about surviving. If the worst ever happens here, our country will need all of the good, decent people it can get. Only civilized people can create a civilized society. The people who are properly prepared will survive. The people who sit around waiting for the government to take care of them will be in big trouble. The people who try to steal will be eliminated.
I think it will be just like the old west, though. People will have to be able to take care of themselves and defend themselves and their property. That's where the guns and ammo come in. What's the good of having food and water if criminals can just take it from you?
I think how people react to an emergency is a product of where they live and how they were raised. Nashville had an epic flood last year and there was no looting and pillaging. They just got on with things, with little or no help from the federal government, I might add (probably because the Republican governor was very anti-Obamacare).
Of course the media didn't cover this story because there was no looting or violence. I couldn't believe how little national coverage that flood got. I guess people taking care of themselves and each other just doesn't play on TV as well as a bunch of people either waiting to be taken care of or killing and stealing. A sad comment on our country AND our media.
OfflineMonkette and I both want to get handguns (after learning proper shooting and maintenance etc) not so much to go on a crime spree (lol) as for self defense. We live in a very rough area and if something major happens there's no doubt in my mind that it would be thug central around here.
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OfflineI don't think this man is predicting a cataclysm. He's just predicting a sizable earthquake, like California has had many times before. He certainly didn't say anything about a tidal wave, etc.
I hope you change your mind about surviving. If the worst ever happens here, our country will need all of the good, decent people it can get. Only civilized people can create a civilized society. The people who are properly prepared will survive. The people who sit around waiting for the government to take care of them will be in big trouble. The people who try to steal will be eliminated.
I think it will be just like the old west, though. People will have to be able to take care of themselves and defend themselves and their property. That's where the guns and ammo come in. What's the good of having food and water if criminals can just take it from you?
I think how people react to an emergency is a product of where they live and how they were raised. Nashville had an epic flood last year and there was no looting and pillaging. They just got on with things, with little or no help from the federal government, I might add (probably because the Republican governor was very anti-Obamacare).
Of course the media didn't cover this story because there was no looting or violence. I couldn't believe how little national coverage that flood got. I guess people taking care of themselves and each other just doesn't play on TV as well as a bunch of people either waiting to be taken care of or killing and stealing. A sad comment on our country AND our media.
I do remember when Nashville went thru all that and it was wonderful to see people helping themselves, not waiting for the government. It was like that here in KS when a bad tornado tore thru Greensburg. They helped themselves instead of waiting for someone else to do it for them. I have my storm shelter prepared for a short lived event like a tornado but I just don't know if I could live in the worlds of Mad Max, The Book of Eli or The Road (depressing!). I do agree that the ones with the guns will at least be able to defend their lives and their property and I am a proponent of gun ownership (heck my husband is a cop so I know too well how many neer- do- wells have weapons). Well, I'm glad y'all are well prepared in case your area gets rocked by an earthquake, tornado or flood!
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