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Discrimination
February 3, 2010
10:22 pm PDT
NoWhammies
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I had an eating disorder 20 years ago. I also abused my body with exercise – I spent about 5 hours a day working out most days of the week. When I did eat, which was seldom, I would make myself throw up. It got to be exhausting, trying to be and look perfect all of the time. It felt superficial, and had nothing to do with who I was as a person. At some point, I got lucky and wised up. We get so caught up in appearance, we forget about heart. Even people who are so large they can't wipe their own arses have heart. It's hard knowing where someone has come from or what they have dealt with in their lives. In most cases, we also don't know who they really, the challenges they face, their kindness, their compassion or anything else. The only reason we would judge someone on something so one-dimensional such as appearance, weight or anything else speaks volumes about who we are and not at all about the people we judge or discriminate against.

As for people who choose to judge me – occasionally it hurts. More often than not I realize that their judgment is about them and not me. I am not going to let someone else's judgments about me change who I am. When I used to do that, I it led me to abuse myself just so I could look better. Never again.

February 3, 2010
10:43 pm PDT
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when cheryl asked for a photo of me i could not provide one. i have spent my entire life hiding from cameras. i am the artist; i am behind the brush, pencil, camera, whatever. NEVER in front of it.

it takes all i can muster to have my driver's license photo taken. i have a deeply intense dread of my own image. i know it goes back to my self-esteem and body image and all that crap. i am comfortable in my own skin or at least as much as i probably will ever be. but it took all i could do to let my son take a pic of me. he was beside himself with laughter at the premise of being able to do that without fear of physical retaliation! he kept saying i could give her the baby picture we have of me…

at this point in my life i don't worry too much about this 'thing' (i am too poor to call it a quirk /dry.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Laugh' /> ). i can finally catch a glimpse of myself in a store window and not cringe. most of the time. there are still times when the inside-my-head-image of who i am/what i look like over rides the reality. the truth is i am neither beautiful nor ugly; grossly obese nor stick thin. i am curvy. i am relatively normal (whatever that means). i am who and what i am and i no longer have the energy to change into what the world feels i am supposed to be. i no longer even care to be what the world feels i am supposed to be.

for the most part, i hold myself to a higher standard than the world does. i fail so miserably at times, but at least i try. and then try again.

"We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of dreams." - Willy Wonka (Gene Wilder)




"God is a kid with an ant farm." Constantine
February 3, 2010
10:45 pm PDT
TheNightGoat
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How did this discussion evolve into inferences about our moderators possibly discriminating against posters in the future?

The administrators here have full confidence in ALL of our moderators, who have done a wonderful job moderating here on PUG.

If there are any actual complaints about discrimination here, they should be reported to the admins, not speculated about here on the forum.

I would like to air a complaint about 'discrimination' by one of your mods here. A certain someone received a cookie for her efforts in getting people to sign up to these wonderful forums. Well, I was among the ones who came over… well, I did not see nary a crumb of that cookie. She could have at least shared. /dry.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Laugh' />

/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />

February 3, 2010
10:50 pm PDT
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I would like to air a complaint about 'discrimination' by one of your mods here. A certain someone received a cookie for her efforts in getting people to sign up to these wonderful forums. Well, I was among the ones who came over… well, I did not see nary a crumb of that cookie. She could have at least shared. /dry.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Laugh' />

/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />

sheesh, some people..i swear. /dry.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />

if i had shared with all ten people there would have been none left for me /tongue.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':P' />

psst, cheryl this probably isnt a good time to thank you for the real cookie you sent is it? /unsure.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':unsure:' /> /laugh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Laugh' />

February 3, 2010
10:56 pm PDT
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Annie, I know EXACTLY how you felt about the pic.

It took me a long, long time to put my pic up her and at syfy.

When I did, I wont even go into all the things that happened.

To say I was shocked that adults behaved that way was putting

it mildly. Not just name calling, but so much more.

When I did the member profile last month and cheryl asked

for a pic i said "use the one here", ive already been tormented

for it so no problem. but then she wrote back and said she wanted

ANOTHER pic of me. I had an honest to goodness panic attack. The

thought of putting another pic of myself out there, when the pic I

thought was the best one I had of me caused such a stir, terrified

me. After going back and forth with cheryl over it, she finally said

I didnt have to send another, but i said "no". I'm tired of letting

other people make me feel bad about myself. I am who I am, people

want to hate me because of what I look like, there's nothing I can

do about that.

Although I'm not perfect in feeling that way /sad.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Laugh' /> , I did insist on a tight crop of the pic.

baby steps I guess.

February 3, 2010
10:57 pm PDT
MysticalKnight
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I would like to air a complaint about 'discrimination' by one of your mods here. A certain someone received a cookie for her efforts in getting people to sign up to these wonderful forums. Well, I was among the ones who came over… well, I did not see nary a crumb of that cookie. She could have at least shared. /dry.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Laugh' />

/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />

OMG! Heidi did have some leftovers of her recruiting cookie!!!

DIG IN EVERYONE! /laugh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':unsure:' />

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February 3, 2010
11:03 pm PDT
MissingK8
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i got dibs on that perfecto choco chip; first one who touches it loses a hand…mwahahahaha

"We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of dreams." - Willy Wonka (Gene Wilder)




"God is a kid with an ant farm." Constantine
February 3, 2010
11:06 pm PDT
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Annie and Heidi … both of your pics were gosh darn cute!

And, um, when we profiled the admins of the site long ago, I used a picture of myself when I was like 5. Enough said …

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February 3, 2010
11:06 pm PDT
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i got dibs on that perfecto choco chip; first one who touches it loses a hand…mwahahahaha

hahahahahahahaha!

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February 3, 2010
11:19 pm PDT
MissingK8
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Annie and Heidi … both of your pics were gosh darn cute!

And, um, when we profiled the admins of the site long ago, I used a picture of myself when I was like 5. Enough said …

cheryl,

i would kill for heidi's coloring!

and as for me, i just have this 'monster' inside my head that creeps out now and again. i drive poor bill nutz. he thinks i am beautiful, always has. of course, that is one benefit of marrying an older gentleman: i will always look relatively young beside him! :-)

seriously, tho, i will still gather up plus-size clothes in sizes much too large to try on when i know what size i really take. i just cannot merge the 2 people that exist-the one in my head and the one on the outside.

i am thinking that perhaps i discriminate against myself. (i think i just had a 'eureka moment'!!)

'

"We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of dreams." - Willy Wonka (Gene Wilder)




"God is a kid with an ant farm." Constantine
February 3, 2010
11:35 pm PDT
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Annie and Heidi … both of your pics were gosh darn cute!

And, um, when we profiled the admins of the site long ago, I used a picture of myself when I was like 5. Enough said …

Cheryl, I've seen a recent pic of you and you are beautiful,

you have nothing to worry about /smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />

cheryl,

i would kill for heidi's coloring!

and as for me, i just have this 'monster' inside my head that creeps out now and again. i drive poor bill nutz. he thinks i am beautiful, always has. of course, that is one benefit of marrying an older gentleman: i will always look relatively young beside him! :-)

seriously, tho, i will still gather up plus-size clothes in sizes much too large to try on when i know what size i really take. i just cannot merge the 2 people that exist-the one in my head and the one on the outside.

i am thinking that perhaps i discriminate against myself. (i think i just had a 'eureka moment'!!)

'

I have the opposite problem Annie. I actually delude myself

into thinking i'm "not that bad' and then I'll catch a glimpse

of myself in a window of something (i avoid full length mirrors

like the plague), or see a pic of myself and realize, yes i really

am that bad /sad.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':(' />

February 3, 2010
11:38 pm PDT
norcalmonkey
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Annie and Heidi … both of your pics were gosh darn cute!

And, um, when we profiled the admins of the site long ago, I used a picture of myself when I was like 5. Enough said …

I hate getting my picture taken, it has nothing to do w/poor body image necessarily, it's just that I've yet to see a good one. Either I got red eye, reflection off my glasses, dopey grin, eyes closed you name it. I just avoid it completely.

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February 3, 2010
11:44 pm PDT
MissingK8
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I hate getting my picture taken, it has nothing to do w/poor body image necessarily, it's just that I've yet to see a good one. Either I got red eye, reflection off my glasses, dopey grin, eyes closed you name it. I just avoid it completely.

commission me for a portrait, monk: i'll make you a matinee idol!

"We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of dreams." - Willy Wonka (Gene Wilder)




"God is a kid with an ant farm." Constantine
February 4, 2010
1:03 am PDT
caligirl2_24
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when cheryl asked for a photo of me i could not provide one. i have spent my entire life hiding from cameras. i am the artist; i am behind the brush, pencil, camera, whatever. NEVER in front of it.

it takes all i can muster to have my driver's license photo taken. i have a deeply intense dread of my own image. i know it goes back to my self-esteem and body image and all that crap.

I was like that as well. But in high school I realized something (maybe my friends forced me into it who knows), yes I still think I look bad in photos but Im doing all these fun things, worrying about pictures takes away from it. So I just go with it or act nuts or whatever it maybe. Why stress on it? My friends keep most of them anyway so I dont have to see them again and it makes my friends, or whom Im going out with at the time happy. So go with it lol just laugh and have fun, it makes it not so bad. Now the posed pictures are much harder to do. Has you think of it



Remember, dogs and cats are better than kids because they:

(1) eat less,

(2) don’t ask for money all the time,

(3) are easier to train,

(4) normally come when called,

(5) never ask to drive the car,

(6) don’t smoke or drink,

(7) don’t want to wear your clothes,

(8) don’t have to buy the latest fashions,

(9) don’t need a gazillion dollars for college and

(10) if they get pregnant, you can sell their children ..
February 4, 2010
1:14 am PDT
MissingK8
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sweetie, you are still very young. i am so glad you have overcome this with common sense re: having fun. but mine is so ingrained now that it would take another lifetime to overcome.

you got way smarter way younger. /smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />

"We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of dreams." - Willy Wonka (Gene Wilder)




"God is a kid with an ant farm." Constantine
February 4, 2010
1:22 am PDT
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sweetie, you are still very young. i am so glad you have overcome this with common sense re: having fun. but mine is so ingrained now that it would take another lifetime to overcome.

you got way smarter way younger. /smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />

Oh I know Im young! And I think thats what made me fall into this (or again my friends can be pushy). Im young and have so long to go, I had to figure something out to help with it. As for you, Im sure you still look great. I know I have to tell that to mom all the time /laugh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':huh:' /> You always think you look worse then anyone else does. I think I look horrible, yet Iv gotten hit on 3 times this week by random people…..that is the only time I start to think about how I look really. Good luck to you though /smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Laugh' />



Remember, dogs and cats are better than kids because they:

(1) eat less,

(2) don’t ask for money all the time,

(3) are easier to train,

(4) normally come when called,

(5) never ask to drive the car,

(6) don’t smoke or drink,

(7) don’t want to wear your clothes,

(8) don’t have to buy the latest fashions,

(9) don’t need a gazillion dollars for college and

(10) if they get pregnant, you can sell their children ..
February 4, 2010
1:30 am PDT
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You always think you look worse then anyone else does.

apparently you havent met some of my syfy friends *please note the sarcasm* /wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />

ask your Mom, she'll tell you all about them haha

February 4, 2010
2:06 am PDT
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OMG! Heidi did have some leftovers of her recruiting cookie!!!

DIG IN EVERYONE! /laugh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':P' />

I went to dunk my portion in a glass of milk and lost it.

February 4, 2010
2:07 am PDT
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I went to dunk my portion in a glass of milk and lost it.

/laugh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':P' /> /laugh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Laugh' />

February 4, 2010
2:34 am PDT
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OK, after reading this page, I have to say … I love you all.

/biggrin.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':P' />

You make me laugh, cry, think … OK, so I'm in an emotional place, but I still love you all. /laugh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Laugh' />

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