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A question about wakes/funerals
January 16, 2010
4:51 pm PDT
HeidiAnn67
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On another board I belong to we are having a discussion about Wakes and Funerals.

It made me remember something that occured at one I went to that I had never seen

done before, so I wonder if anyone else has had this happen.

It was a funeral for a 17 year old boy I knew. The wake had been the night before

and the funeral was being held in the Funeral Home. When we got there that morning

we were surprised to see that the casket was still open. After a little while the Funeral

Director came in (the immediate family was about to arrive) and announced he would

be closing the casket if anyone wanted to step out. I had never seen this done, where

they close the casket in front of everyone there for the funeral. It was honestly awful

to witness, and I'll know next time to "step out" if it ever happens again. Psychologically

watching the lid shut on that boy I adored, it was so hard.

So I'm curious, and when Gene gets back I'd love his take on this,

have any of you witnessed this? I dont mean when a few family

members stay behind, this was in a huge room full of people there

for the funeral.

January 16, 2010
5:13 pm PDT
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Hopefully Gene will have the answer.

I have only been to one funeral in my life. No – wait – two. My family tends not to have funerals – instead we have parties. I've never seen an open casket. I've never seen a dead person (other than a ghost). I think that may be highly unusual.

January 16, 2010
5:17 pm PDT
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I've never seen it announced like that. I've seen funerals where they leave the lid open for a bit and then close it when the funeral starts. Then at the end they open it again so people can pass by and say their good byes.

January 16, 2010
6:47 pm PDT
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I'm an Orthodox Christian. The final good bye is in the church after the funeral service. The family goes up to the open casket and covers the deceased and says their final good byes. The the funeral director closes the lid .

January 16, 2010
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I've seen all different variations over the years…open caskets, closed caskets, pre cremation etc.

But I'm not sure that i've ever seen the lid get shut like you described!

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January 16, 2010
9:39 pm PDT
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No. I've never seen it like that either. I have been to waay too many funerals and this is something i've never heard of. At my mothers funeral, my aunt didnt get to see her before they closed the casket, so they opened it back up and then closed it again right before the funeral service. That was awkward.

January 17, 2010
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I can imagine that it would be very hard. I haven't ever heard of it this way. Every one that I have been to, the casket stays open until everyone leaves the room, and once everyone is gone they closed it..

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January 17, 2010
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I've seen it done both ways. I'm sure the funeral directors prefer that everyone leave before closing the casket. A friend who was a mortician told me about an occasion when his tie became caught when closing the casket during a service.

January 17, 2010
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I'll be really curious to hear what Gene has to say about this /smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='<_<' />

and I believe Perpetual Persuit use to be a Funeral Director too,

maybe he'll chime in.

January 17, 2010
4:39 pm PDT
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I'll be interested in what Gene says also.

I've never heard of it being done that way.

When my sister passed, after the funeral we had our private time before the casket was closed, but when it came time to close the casket, they only wanted one family member to witness the closing.

January 17, 2010
4:42 pm PDT
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I'll be interested in what Gene says also.

I've never heard of it being done that way.

When my sister passed, after the funeral we had our private time before the casket was closed, but when it came time to close the casket, they only wanted one family member to witness the closing.

it wasnt just a simple process of just lowering the lid either.

it really was not something i had planned to witness, and

have no desire to do it again.

January 18, 2010
3:29 am PDT
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okay, I had said in another post that there was a funeral discussion going on.

well, someone posted asking what a wake was, said she'd never been to one,

that they didnt have them in Missouri. i found that statement to be very bizarre.

well, it turns out that they DO have them in Missouri, they just dont call them

wakes.

so i'm curious what you call the day before a funeral when

people go to the funeral home to pay last respects to the

person who died…

or as we say in New England; the Wake.

January 18, 2010
3:41 am PDT
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Same as you Heidi, the day before is the Wake, the day of the burial is the Funeral.

January 18, 2010
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nope, in Iowa we call it the visitation or the viewing. I never knew what a wake was till a friend moved here from Wisconsin and they have them there. I guess its the same thing, just regional expression.

January 18, 2010
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I've heard viewing & wake

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January 18, 2010
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? needed a whole other thread for this?

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January 18, 2010
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for me when growing up, anything before the funeral at the funeral home was a viewing. the wake usually took place at the home of the family itself, a sort of muted party as it were, celebrating the life of the deceased. some cried, some laffed, most did a bit of both. there was food and drink.

years ago, when the bodies were kept in the home, the wake/viewing were simultaneous, tho usually the body in the parlor and wake in the rest of the house, with people going in and out as they wanted to pay their respects. …this may just be the irish interpretation, tho.

and heidi: *hug* i cannot imagine the horror of watching them close the lid like that. i have never heard of that happening in front of everyone. i would find that very traumatizing.

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January 18, 2010
11:59 am PDT
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for me when growing up, anything before the funeral at the funeral home was a viewing. the wake usually took place at the home of the family itself, a sort of muted party as it were, celebrating the life of the deceased. some cried, some laffed, most did a bit of both. there was food and drink.

years ago, when the bodies were kept in the home, the wake/viewing were simultaneous, tho usually the body in the parlor and wake in the rest of the house, with people going in and out as they wanted to pay their respects. …this may just be the irish interpretation, tho.

and heidi: *hug* i cannot imagine the horror of watching them close the lid like that. i have never heard of that happening in front of everyone. i would find that very traumatizing.

This is the way we do it as well.

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January 18, 2010
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On another board I belong to we are having a discussion about Wakes and Funerals.

It made me remember something that occured at one I went to that I had never seen

done before, so I wonder if anyone else has had this happen.

It was a funeral for a 17 year old boy I knew. The wake had been the night before

and the funeral was being held in the Funeral Home. When we got there that morning

we were surprised to see that the casket was still open. After a little while the Funeral

Director came in (the immediate family was about to arrive) and announced he would

be closing the casket if anyone wanted to step out. I had never seen this done, where

they close the casket in front of everyone there for the funeral. It was honestly awful

to witness, and I'll know next time to "step out" if it ever happens again. Psychologically

watching the lid shut on that boy I adored, it was so hard.

So I'm curious, and when Gene gets back I'd love his take on this,

have any of you witnessed this? I dont mean when a few family

members stay behind, this was in a huge room full of people there

for the funeral.

I'm sorry to hear that you witnessed that, Heidi. I've seen it done a number of ways. For my Uncle John, the casket was open before the funeral ceremony took place and then it was closed right before. There were people in the church and my daughter saw it. I wasn't there at the time, she was with my husband, and she got upset. For my Uncles Ted and Frank, the caskets were closed. For my Aunt Marcella, the casket was open during the visitation and then she was cremated. For my mother in law, the casket was closed during the funeral mass but open during the visitation. There, they gave the immediate family some time to be with her before other people came in. People were ushered out except for the family when the casket was closed. For Bertha, the casket was open during the visitation and then she was cremated. For a co-worker, they closed the casket before the funeral mass but open just prior to it.

As far as the time before the funeral service takes place, I've heard it called visitation, wake, viewing and reviewal, which I find extremely strange. I've also noticed a trend toward having the visitation the same day as the funeral rather than the day before. I think that's a bit kinder on the grieving family not have to go through two days of it.

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January 18, 2010
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Yes, I will be interested in what Gene says as well, I hope he gets here soon….

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