this is me jumping in the Potter discussion /biggrin.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> ( jumps is seat clapping hands and suggest we start a harry potter thread)

first i would like to say YAY monk i found Harry a bit boring too in fact i found him arrogant and self centered,i will never forgive Harry for thinking he was better then his best friend (and it has nothing to do with the fact that I am having a love affair with Ron) but that is the beauty of it, all the characters have flaws hell Hermione annoyed the crap out of me at first. no one was perfect not even the Hero and i loved that.

Next I was never a Snape "lover" but i did find him to be most intriguing and fought tooth and nail believing he was indeed on our side so when the he Killed Dumbledore i was completely shocked and then when he cut off Gorges Ear… i hated him i felt so betrayed by Snape. So i get where your coming from with the he deserved a better send off but in a way it fit both with what Monk said and theme of love that underlined the whole series. Voldemort didn't love he obsessed and if you didnt feed his obsession you were ganna get the short end of the stick. Theres THAT and the fact that i think the lack luster send off was done intensionally, theres that line about how Harry was looking down at him dieing and didn't know how he felt about it. as a reader nether did i here was a character i put all my faith in only to find out i was deceived, It gave the following chapter a much bigger impact. although had a feeling that theres was something with Snape and Lilly i just thought he loved her from afar i had no idea how deep it truly ran so on upon my second read i broke down when i read "green meet black" ( i know im all over the place sorry i go off on tangents)

As for one of the trio dieing… to me Fred's death was just as bad.

Yeah, I was/am a huge fan of the Weasley twins…they rule! I'm not sure where exactly we could put a Harry Potter thread here but it would be cool to have one to "geek out" in.

When you saw how tormented his youth was, it made the indifference nature of his death even more painful to "witness". I got real worked up at Dobby's death too, that whole sequence was beautifully written.

I stated on in the Literary Forum hope thats ok.

Are you sure the book was set in the USA or other country where the driver sits on the left? In the UK, Australia, and many other countries the driver sits on the right of the car, so the scenario you describe would have been correct! /smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />

oh, and i can get turned off a book because of the stupidest little "error"

nick still loves to joke with me about the time i was reading a book, it

was a good book, and then in one part the truck makes a quick, sharp

left turn and the passenger slides into the driver. /huh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> , she would

have slid into the door, not the driver. ruined the rest of the book for

me /laugh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> (sadly i'm being serious /unsure.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> )

As far as the worst fiction I've read – In recent years it would have to be "The Passage" by Justin Cronin. I chose this as it's the only book in over a decade I simply had no desire to finish. I was really looking forward to reading this book and the first 250 or so pages were fantastic and utterly absorbing. Then the book jumped forward in time; the characters I had invested in were dead, (apparently), and a whole new set of characters that I felt nothing for were introduced. I persisted with the book for another 300 or so pages trying to become reabsorbed into the story before finally giving up and putting the book back on the shelf. Ordinarily, I might have forced myself to finish, but as this book was the first in a proposed trilogy and as I now have no desire to read the subsequent volumes, I gave up. There's many lifetimes of good fiction and non-fiction I would rather read than this admittedly well written but nonetheless literally drivel.