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OfflineI am contemplating a formal investigation into some instances involving peoples personal experiences where they see spirits either holding wood or where wood plays a part in their experience. Here is one instance to give you the idea of what is going on.
As you all know my group is made up of primarily police officers and a few other professionals.
Recently one member while on duty got a call of a break in at an elderly lady's home. She had just turned 95. (yes, I know what you are thinking) Anyway, she stated that she saw 6 people, a whole family, parents and children walk into her living room carrying a bundle of sticks and sit on her couch. They did not acknowledge her or respond to her or even seem to know she was there. She ran to call police and they were gone when she returned and no one else in the neighborhood had heard or seen anything. The woman told them that she knew they thought she was crazy but that she did see it.
There is a lot more to this and not the only report involving people carrying wood. There is one other similarity to all the sightings that I will reveal later.
My question is, has anyone ever heard of any stories of people seeing spirits, ghosts, etc, where wood played an obvious role in the sighting?
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OfflineI am contemplating a formal investigation into some instances involving peoples personal experiences where they see spirits either holding wood or where wood plays a part in their experience. Here is one instance to give you the idea of what is going on.
As you all know my group is made up of primarily police officers and a few other professionals.
Recently one member while on duty got a call of a break in at an elderly lady's home. She had just turned 95. (yes, I know what you are thinking) Anyway, she stated that she saw 6 people, a whole family, parents and children walk into her living room carrying a bundle of sticks and sit on her couch. They did not acknowledge her or respond to her or even seem to know she was there. She ran to call police and they were gone when she returned and no one else in the neighborhood had heard or seen anything. The woman told them that she knew they thought she was crazy but that she did see it.
There is a lot more to this and not the only report involving people carrying wood. There is one other similarity to all the sightings that I will reveal later.
My question is, has anyone ever heard of any stories of people seeing spirits, ghosts, etc, where wood played an obvious role in the sighting?
I am interested in what you feel wood has a role in this……it is a living thing…so maybe its energy has something to do with the paranormal? Is this where you are going? You have my undivided attention…
OfflineI am interested in what you feel wood has a role in this……it is a living thing…so maybe its energy has something to do with the paranormal? Is this where you are going? You have my undivided attention…
Not sure just yet. Several reports by elderly people all of whom stated that the people they saw were holdng a stick or carrying sticks or firewood. For whatever reason they made that part perfectly clear. This last woman was in her own home and not a retirement or old age home so she must still have all her faculties.
I will add at this point that the incidents happened within one Pa. township but involve 2 different Police Departments that until now had no idea that the incidents were similar.
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OfflineHere is what I have as fact so far.
All complaints were made to the police by the elderly. Some of which were from a retirement home. The last lady lives alone in her own home. At least one incident from an adjoining town. Most were made by women. All but the last one died within 30 days. It has only been a few days since the last report.
Even this last incident might have gone by without notice but the member met up with an officer from the adjoining town and were exchanging the evenings stories and information. Just for S&G he told the other officer about the old ladies story and that is when he found out about the similar stories from the other town. An official report was made on this case (as a reported break-in) and he is looking to see if the others he had heard of were officially reported.
He then contacted me to see what I thought. In my career as with most officers I would assume. I have heard all kind of stories from the elderly and many are similar. Some reports are for recognition or just out of plain loneliness and to have someone to talk to for a short period. However, this one bit of information struck me as odd, especially coming from several people from different places who didn't know each other.
Yes, I understand that they are all old and their lives may just have been at a close anyway. I am not suggesting any outside forces caused their deaths but was looking more for any stories that may shed some light on the possibility of the significance of wood being an omen or warning of death.
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OfflineThis last woman was in her own home and not a retirement or old age home so she must still have all her faculties.
My father is still in his own home…and I wouldnt exactly
say he has "all his faculties" /sad.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':rolleyes:' /> . Not discounting your stories,
just saying that because someone is in their own home does
not mean they may not be a little "off".
That being said, if my father tells me someone with sticks
came into his home I'll be a little worried /unsure.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':o' />
OfflineMy father is still in his own home…and I wouldnt exactly
say he has "all his faculties"
/sad.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':rolleyes:' /> . Not discounting your stories,
just saying that because someone is in their own home does
not mean they may not be a little "off".
That being said, if my father tells me someone with sticks
came into his home I'll be a little worried
/unsure.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':o' />
This woman lives alone and her mind is clear. No outward signs of being feeble or feeble minded. I understand that anyone can be off and not show it but there is no outward signs here. That's what I was getting at.
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OfflineWas there any witch burning or similiar activities in the past at either of these townships?
Almost sounds residual by what description of the event there is?
Don't know about any witch burnings but that is an interesting line to follow. Actuall as far as history goes the area is along the Sullivan Trail
Here is a short synopsis:
Gen. Washington instructed Gen. Sullivan and three brigades to march from Easton, Pennsylvania to the Susquehanna River in central Pennsylvania and to follow the river upstream to Tioga, now known as Athens, Pennsylvania. He ordered Gen. Clinton to assemble a fourth brigade at Schenectady, New York, move westward up the Mohawk Valley to Canajoharie, and cross overland to Otsego Lake as a staging point. When Sullivan so ordered, Clinton's New York Brigade was to march down the Susquehanna to meet Sullivan at Tioga, destroying all Indian villages on his route.
This was in retaliation for a massacre of a few hundred people by the Iroquois.
Thanks for bringing that up. It triggered some thoughts to follow.
OfflineUpdate:
I talked to my son who was the first responding officer to the call. Now that we had a little time to talk over the phone a lot more interesting things came to light.
This I found very interesting and odd. The call came in at 2 am from this lady. She was not telling what had happened but what was happening at that moment. She stated to the dispatcher the following information and he was relaying it to the patrols. My son was there within minutes.
Remember she was relating this in real time.
She said; “There are several people outside my house walking around and doing something.” She then went out the door and said she still saw them. She came back in the house and said, “Now they are doing something to my front door.””They don’t seem to be trying to break in but they are doing something to the door.” Then she said, ”They are coming in the house and sitting on my couch.”
The police arrived with lights and sirens which caught her attention and distracted her and then they were gone.
She told the police that they were carrying a bundle of sticks. They did not talk to her or even act like they saw her. She could hear them whispering to each other but couldn’t make out what they were saying. Then they were gone and she didn’t see them leave. The police checked the home, talked to neighbors and checked the area and found nothing.
So that’s where it stands now until we can talk to the lady again.
OfflineCould it have been a residual re-enactment of boarding the cabin from an Iriquois
attack. From the descriptionshe gave the occupants would have reinforced the door
and brought all fire wood inside the dwelling. At least that's the way they did it in
Texas. You didn't want to leave kindling outside for the attackers to use to light your dwelling.
A clothing description from the Lady will probably help shed some light on the occurence.
This one is really interesting.
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OfflineHow old is the house? That could determine if it's intelligent or residual.
I am not a believer of the residual type haunt but that's just my thing.
Anyway… The building is not very old. It was built as an income property and has several single story attached units. However, the property was an old farm that was in use for a very long time and the fact that it is on or in close proximity to the Sullivan Trail raises some possibilities. I am now waiting for them to get back to me with physical descriptions of the clothing, etc of the people they saw.
OfflineI'm the opposite there. I believe in more of the residual stuff than intelligent.
I'm just wondering if the door that they were at is in the same place when the location was built. That's why I was thinking residual. They could have been doing a simple act from their time and the door is in the same place for them to do it.
Just thinking/typing out loud.
OfflineI'm the opposite there. I believe in more of the residual stuff than intelligent.
I'm just wondering if the door that they were at is in the same place when the location was built. That's why I was thinking residual. They could have been doing a simple act from their time and the door is in the same place for them to do it.
Just thinking/typing out loud.
I understand what you’re getting at. This building is relatively new and there wasn't any other building there in recent history that I know of.
Whatever they were doing outside they were doing as a group or family and then came in to sit on the ladies couch, together. The only thing that comes to mind of a family acting this way would be if they were going to church or a meeting house where they might mill around outside and then come in and all sit together chatting before service. That is just me typing out loud now. lol I have a lot more research to do on the area.
Thanks, I appreciate yours and all the ideas. Keep them coming. This is brewing into an interesting occurrence.
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