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OfflineCan you explain to me how that would help. If there were no electricty. be never used for ghost house. remember my town thinks this is evil. let me know and iwould do that. but like i said it really was maybe a small to wake up call for me. Thanks st
You said it was used by the fire department… right? (Training)
Are you sure there is no power to the house?
Firemen, at least the ones I know have a great sense of humor.
If they know the rumors of this house is "haunted" … well … I know a few firemen that would set this house up.
See the thing is – the comman and smoothness of the window was just to … well .. "smooth" .. to "on cue". The few paranormal investigations where I've seen things move without human help -aka- possible paranormal were never right on command and were never "smooth" -- they were 'jerky' like the 'ghost/spirit' did indeed have to work at moving the solid object.
I would ask the fire department – local – show them the video and don't ask them if it's a 'set up' – ask them "how they did it" because you are thinking of staging a Halloween House this coming 10-31 and want to get some ideas.
See if you let them know you know – and it is … they'll come forward. If they did not, you will see the surprise on their faces and then you have them willing to help you find out what is going on in their training house. /biggrin.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />
Yes this is valid. I know several organizations that raise donations through the Haunted Houses and they have already begun work on and for this year.
OfflineSee this what you are saying is not even a process in my mind. My son came to me earlier that day and asked to come check out this old house. We walked around it and in the back of the house was like a board covering the door. They screwed up. My son was going to go get a screw driver to try and get inside. As I walked around the right backside of the house I looked up and saw the shutter open. I asked if there is any spirits here please close the dorr I called not a shutter. It did it on command. I was so blown away. I ran back to my home. And got my video camera. You can see the real footage of me driving in the car. I was mixed up when I said it was open when we drove back. As I got out of the car. I turned my camera on and asked the same question and it did it. Cool sound effects and all. It could of been the wind but there was no mechanical devices and it was not set up. The wind could of been blowing up high and that is the only thing that could of moved it. Believe me it looks like on command and most things dont do that. I could though talk to them and see if the electricty was on cause there is a strange light that appears in the window. And if you watch is it is not the camera light. No need to bother no one else about this I just wanted it to help people see how my story was affecting me. This happen 7 years i believe ago. Just when ghost hunting was getting noticed. Thanks St
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OfflineSee this what you are saying is not even a process in my mind. My son came to me earlier that day and asked to come check out this old house. We walked around it and in the back of the house was like a board covering the door. They screwed up. My son was going to go get a screw driver to try and get inside. As I walked around the right backside of the house I looked up and saw the shutter open. I asked if there is any spirits here please close the dorr I called not a shutter. It did it on command. I was so blown away. I ran back to my home. And got my video camera. You can see the real footage of me driving in the car. I was mixed up when I said it was open when we drove back. As I got out of the car. I turned my camera on and asked the same question and it did it. Cool sound effects and all. It could of been the wind but there was no mechanical devices and it was not set up. The wind could of been blowing up high and that is the only thing that could of moved it. Believe me it looks like on command and most things dont do that. I could though talk to them and see if the electricty was on cause there is a strange light that appears in the window. And if you watch is it is not the camera light. No need to bother no one else about this I just wanted it to help people see how my story was affecting me. This happen 7 years i believe ago. Just when ghost hunting was getting noticed. Thanks St
Sorry – the investigator in me … I try to make sure I covered the logical and rational answers first. Then when I am certain I've exhausted the reasonable … then I can look into the 'paranormal' answers…
See this is what most serious investigators would ask, in regards to this video …
Even in all other areas of my life – I check out the reasonable first. I like to cover my bases…. /wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />
OfflineST, I'm no expert on gathering evidence and filming, but I have had many personal experiences and some of them have involved doors opening and shutting very smoothly. I've also seen doors open/close creakily and jerkily and I've had them slam in my face, too. All of my upstairs doors once slammed simultaneously. No windows open, no drafts. no explanation.
I don't have any idea why it happens in such different ways at different times but since I have seen them all with my own eyes, I know that they do. Maybe it has to do with the strength or power of a spirit at a given time. Maybe it has to do with their mood. I truly don't know.
I wasn't there that night and I am obviously not familiar with the building or its location so I can't say with any certainty whether it was real paranormal activity or if someone set it up as a joke, like JJB suggests. From what you are saying it seems unlikely to me that it was a gag, but it is always a possibility. There is no limit to the practical jokes that men will play. Usually, though, they want to witness the results of their efforts. What fun is it to scare someone if you aren't there to laugh at them, right? /smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />
Was the house close to other houses or properties and therefore likely to get visitors? If so, they could easily have set a camera up to capture the results of their prank. On the other hand, what would be the point of setting up such a prank if the house is set far away from other properties and is unlikely to be visited? It seems like a lot of effort to go to with very little payoff for them. But as JJB says, there may be other motives.
You are going to have experiences that no matter how hard you try to document, are still going to be doubted. It's just the nature of the beast. Some are more debunkable than others, but they can all be explained somehow. Sometimes you have to be satisfied with just knowing what you know and give up on proving it to other people. And really, unless you want to convince other people, you have nothing to prove. /smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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OfflineThis is what I have learned from the past and this site. There are some great people here that want the real truth. See my town has no bars not much open but Meijers only and no one walks or does anything after 10pm. The schools are top in the state and health wise in the state. So not many is out doing ghost stuff. I can not rule out the wind cause it was 20feet high and I am very sure the wind could of been blowing up there but not at my height. That is the inly thing to me now that would make sense. A few days later the door was on the ground from a wind storm. I went back many times after and not once did i run into anyone around that old home. It was well known for training for the fire department. In my story I went to other places close and never then did i see anyone out but the police. And believe me they scared me alot. I was by Meijers on a raining down pour night and I had my audio covered with my coat. Parked in a parking lot I went back after it recorded and a cop pulled over and asked what I was doing I told him the truth and I know he thought I was a nut. I am trying to communicate with the young 18 year old girl with my recorder he said just be careful and nodded his head like what a weirdo. Almost all the time I did this there were no one around cause of the late night. So All I know is to me this open a new chapter in my life I will never forget and if it was the wind I had very good timing. Thanks for all you're responses I really do listen to them. I respect you guys cause you all are not like any other site I have been on. You can be tough when needed but never do I feel bad other sites have actually drop me cause they all thought I was cheating and was getting to many reads correct. Sad when you put you're heart and soul into something and no matter what you do you are labeled a cheater. But this site I will listen I will take all the debunking cause I feel now i am not that excited guy and back then I would of got hurt and felt bad. But now I am a time where I need answers and want answers. And this is the most intellegent site I have been on. Most sites they either agree all day or boot you off. So I will stop talking cause I could go on all day. And jjb-54 I really do know about pranks cause I am one of the best at it. And so is my family. They really got me growing up way to much but that is another story. I just feel good talking it sure helps. Thanks Guys and Girls.
OfflineSorry – the investigator in me … I try to make sure I covered the logical and rational answers first. Then when I am certain I've exhausted the reasonable … then I can look into the 'paranormal' answers…
See this is what most serious investigators would ask, in regards to this video …
Even in all other areas of my life – I check out the reasonable first. I like to cover my bases….
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See when I first started doing this everything was paranormal my wife thought I was nuts my imagination ran wild. Everything on camera on video tape and on audio was a ghost. But then esp with the audio. Things that I thought were a ghost was really after I recorder my audio recorder with a video camera I realized birds would fly by squirrels and the wind all made strange noise that all sounded amazing but it really was nothing. If I would of had that knowledge at first I would of saved me some sleep and my wife so much grief. So bravo to you for doing what you do. Sometimes the answer is not what it seams to be. Have a good night ST
OfflineThis is what I have learned from the past and this site. There are some great people here that want the real truth. See my town has no bars not much open but Meijers only and no one walks or does anything after 10pm. The schools are top in the state and health wise in the state. So not many is out doing ghost stuff. I can not rule out the wind cause it was 20feet high and I am very sure the wind could of been blowing up there but not at my height. That is the inly thing to me now that would make sense. A few days later the door was on the ground from a wind storm. I went back many times after and not once did i run into anyone around that old home. It was well known for training for the fire department. In my story I went to other places close and never then did i see anyone out but the police. And believe me they scared me alot. I was by Meijers on a raining down pour night and I had my audio covered with my coat. Parked in a parking lot I went back after it recorded and a cop pulled over and asked what I was doing I told him the truth and I know he thought I was a nut. I am trying to communicate with the young 18 year old girl with my recorder he said just be careful and nodded his head like what a weirdo. Almost all the time I did this there were no one around cause of the late night. So All I know is to me this open a new chapter in my life I will never forget and if it was the wind I had very good timing. Thanks for all you're responses I really do listen to them. I respect you guys cause you all are not like any other site I have been on. You can be tough when needed but never do I feel bad other sites have actually drop me cause they all thought I was cheating and was getting to many reads correct. Sad when you put you're heart and soul into something and no matter what you do you are labeled a cheater. But this site I will listen I will take all the debunking cause I feel now i am not that excited guy and back then I would of got hurt and felt bad. But now I am a time where I need answers and want answers. And this is the most intellegent site I have been on. Most sites they either agree all day or boot you off. So I will stop talking cause I could go on all day. And jjb-54 I really do know about pranks cause I am one of the best at it. And so is my family. They really got me growing up way to much but that is another story. I just feel good talking it sure helps. Thanks Guys and Girls.
I feel the same way about this site. Yes, we goof around and sometimes we offend each other but it seems that everyone really tries to take the high road here. For me it feels like even if we don't agree, it's ok. No harm, no foul. I totally agree with you about just having a place to share your stories and ideas is good for you, catharsis IS good for the soul. There are some folks on here that are very knowledgeable and we can all learn alot from their experiences and even their mistakes. Take care.
OfflineBut now I am a time where I need answers and want answers. And this is the most intellegent site I have been on.
Everyone on this site is looking for answers, ST, because we don't have the answers either. We do have personal experiences, experiences gathered during paranormal investigations, lots of theories and many different personal beliefs and opinions to share. Some people here can teach you a lot about conducting an investigation and how to evaluate your results. Others are willing to just listen to your stories and discuss them. You may even find people who have had similar experiences. But you won't find all the answers here. We are all seekers.
Occasionally science comes up with some answers for us, but that doesn't happen very often, unfortunately. So far, no one has even been able to prove that ghosts exist.
I just feel good talking it sure helps. Thanks Guys and Girls.
Talking about things does help, doesn't it? There aren't many people that I can talk to about my weird experiences so this site has been a godsend to me. I'm sure others feel the same way. Like your police officer, many people think anything to do with the paranormal is either silly or nuts. We don't. /smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />
OfflineSorry – the investigator in me … I try to make sure I covered the logical and rational answers first. Then when I am certain I've exhausted the reasonable … then I can look into the 'paranormal' answers…
See this is what most serious investigators would ask, in regards to this video …
Even in all other areas of my life – I check out the reasonable first. I like to cover my bases….
/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':P' />
No problem, I am getting alot more positive info from you. I appreciate you bunking skills. Thanks ST
OfflineEveryone on this site is looking for answers, ST, because we don't have the answers either. We do have personal experiences, experiences gathered during paranormal investigations, lots of theories and many different personal beliefs and opinions to share. Some people here can teach you a lot about conducting an investigation and how to evaluate your results. Others are willing to just listen to your stories and discuss them. You may even find people who have had similar experiences. But you won't find all the answers here. We are all seekers.
Occasionally science comes up with some answers for us, but that doesn't happen very often, unfortunately. So far, no one has even been able to prove that ghosts exist.
Talking about things does help, doesn't it? There aren't many people that I can talk to about my weird experiences so this site has been a godsend to me. I'm sure others feel the same way. Like your police officer, many people think anything to do with the paranormal is either silly or nuts. We don't.
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Thanks alot, you have a great heart and mind I feel it. You can take a touchy subject and smooth it out. Thanks ST
OfflineBefore I put this next video up. It is in my story. I was filming my neighbors home thru their kitchen window. I let my self out to see the light show or something that was going to happen at that time and I looked over at my neighbors house and the lights were flashing on and off. Of course me being a nut and obsessed about everything I filmed their window and sure enough I got what I felt was going to happen. My neighbors let me film over their all the time and do evp. But when I showed them the video of course they were very up set and at the same time very interested what I got. It is a shadow person taking on the exact image of the owner but 4 times smaller. I will jsut tell the story until I can have someone help me fuzz the owner out. They have the video and have showed it to many and noone can debunk this one. But do to the nature of the video spying on people is very uncool. So if anyone knows how to blur a person out I would love to show this video and get you're input but I won't do it unless maybe someone can help me. At that very moment the shadow person jumps in front of the window looks at her childrens pictures turns its head and leavea 45 sec later the owner comes by and she is covered by a circle of light like a protection. No one was awake but her and no kids were around I already debunked that. It is solid black and it has a pony tail just like hers and it its twice to three times faster than her. Thanks St The video scared the owner so bad she would not go into the house till her husband came home.
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OfflineST: Sorry I'm late in responding to your earlier inquiry about putting videos in this topic or splitting them. Let's keep them in this topic for the time being, since they are all of a similar theme. /smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':blink:' /> That way we don't have topics running willy nilly all over our bulletin board. If we let that happen, then the terrorists win.
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