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        	<title>KuriusKat on bat or manta ray shaped shadow apparition</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It&#96;s kind of hard to explain...i felt somewhat diminished, like i had shrinked (but then again it was a huge shadow so it might have been that). And it gave me goosebumps, but as soon as i could move i ran to the window to try and see what it was.</p>
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	That&#39;s interesting to me.   I also felt small and helpless, like a mouse must feel when a hawk flies over him.</p>
<p>	Thanks for answering my question.  I appreciate it very much.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 21:23:49 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>Dracorix on bat or manta ray shaped shadow apparition</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>It&#96;s kind of hard to explain...i felt somewhat diminished, like i had shrinked (but then again it was a huge shadow so it might have been that). And it gave me goosebumps, but as soon as i could move i ran to the window to try and see what it was.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 21:07:35 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>KuriusKat on bat or manta ray shaped shadow apparition</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Something very similar happened to me a few years ago in my kitchen as well. It was exactly like when you&#96;re in the garden or the park and a plane or a bird flies above you, yet this time instead of the shadow being in the floor, it was on the ceiling. For years i thought it was just a reflection of a shadow from outside my house, but now i wonder.</p>
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	Thank you for sharing this.   Seeing that darn thing was the scariest thing that ever happened to me.</p>
<p>	I tried every way in the world to prove that it might have been a shadow from outside but there was just no way to make myself believe it.   </p>
<p>	May I ask you if the shadow made you feel anything?   Did you get any sensation from it at all?</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 20:36:28 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>Dracorix on bat or manta ray shaped shadow apparition</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Something very similar happened to me a few years ago in my kitchen as well. It was exactly like when you&#96;re in the garden or the park and a plane or a bird flies above you, yet this time instead of the shadow being in the floor, it was on the ceiling. For years i thought it was just a reflection of a shadow from outside my house, but now i wonder.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 20:22:24 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>norcalmonkey on bat or manta ray shaped shadow apparition</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Thank you so much for NOT bringing that to my attention.   <img class="sfimageleft" />/blink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':mellow:' /> </p>
<p>	I&#39;ll be expecting a grey goose martini as soon as the cantina opens.   Very dry.   <img class="sfimageleft" />/tongue.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':P' /></p>
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	<span style="color: #483D8B;"><span style="font-family: Georgia;"><span style="font-size: 14px;"><em>This REALLY sounds like a ploy for a free drink at the Cantina...you were warned after all&#33;</em></span></span></span></p>
<p>	sheesh</p>
<p>	 <img class="sfimageleft" />/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':P' /></p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 00:07:45 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>KuriusKat on bat or manta ray shaped shadow apparition</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="font-family: Georgia;"><span style="font-size: 13px;"><em>KK you may NOT want to check this out.....</em></span></span></span></p>
<p>	<span style="color: #0000FF;"><strong><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/03/29/florida.ray.tourist/?hpt=T2" target="_blank">Woman &#34;attacked&#34; by an Eagle Ray....Click Here</a></strong></span></p>
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	Thank you so much for NOT bringing that to my attention.   <img class="sfimageleft" />/blink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':mellow:' /> </p>
<p>	I&#39;ll be expecting a grey goose martini as soon as the cantina opens.   Very dry.   <img class="sfimageleft" />/tongue.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':P' /></p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2011 20:39:42 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>norcalmonkey on bat or manta ray shaped shadow apparition</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="font-family: Georgia;"><span style="font-size: 13px;"><em>KK you may NOT want to check this out.....</em></span></span></span></p>
<p>	<span style="color: #0000FF;"><strong><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/03/29/florida.ray.tourist/?hpt=T2" target="_blank">Woman &#34;attacked&#34; by an Eagle Ray....Click Here</a></strong></span></p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2011 20:21:26 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>KuriusKat on bat or manta ray shaped shadow apparition</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>KK, when I had my scary middle of the night incidents (I decided for me that it was a brain function thing which was caused by stress and other personal factors at play rather than an actual evil presence) I experienced true terror.  I was so frightened that I couldn&#39;t move and felt held down and utterly powerless.  This was the most scared I have ever been, it was such an evil feeling presence that was so dark and truly horrifying.  I know our experiences are unique to ourselves but if your feelings of terror from this manta ray thing are anything like what I felt during my incidents then I think I understand a little about how scared you were.  I have NEVER felt so afraid in all my life, it was like the darkest, most empty and evil feeling thing that was looming over me.  I saw it with my own eyes and I hope it never happens again, it was very traumatic for me.  Anyhoo, you are not unhinged.  If the thing I experienced is even 1/10th as scary as what you did, there are not even words descriptive enough to do it justice.  I would bet that therapists actually have experience with folks dealing with paranormal trauma.  I don&#39;t think that is too far fetched at all&#33;</p>
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	Thanks for your support, Milo.   It sounds like you know exactly how I felt even though you think yours was not an actual evil presence.   I wish I could convince myself of the same but so far, no luck.   I haven&#39;t seen it again, thank God.  I hope you never have a repeat of your experience either.   Once is enough for some experiences.   </p>
<p>	I had to smile at the thought of telling a therapist that I saw a flying manta ray shaped thing, possibly a demon, in my kitchen.   Can you imagine?   I&#39;d be slapped in a mental hospital before you could say &#34;straight jacket&#34;.   I saw the thing with my own eyes and I can hardly believe it so  I can only imagine how other people would react to my story.   The only people I&#39;ve ever told this story to are my husband, my mom and this board and it&#39;s going to stay that way.</p>
<p>	It does make me feel better when I occasionally find a story online about someone who has seen something similar.  People often see shadows like bats on their ceilings.   I think they may be the same thing that I saw.  Everyone seems to get the feeling that they are not good but no one knows what they are.  The word demon gets mentioned a lot, though, and I can understand why.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 17:38:39 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>milomilford on bat or manta ray shaped shadow apparition</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Maybe it was the ghost of one of these bad boys that I saw.     <img class="sfimageleft" />/laugh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='<img class="spSmiley" src="http://www.paranormalunderground.net/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-laugh.gif" title="Laugh" alt="Laugh" />' />   It certainly seemed that big and ugly to me at the time. </p>
<p>	Thanks for the second picture Norcal, but it actually just reminded me of how tiny and scared I felt when I saw that thing.   I do appreciate the effort tho.</p>
<p>	I know I sound unhinged on this subject.  I just wish I could explain how horrible that thing was.   This image comes pretty close physically altho it doesn&#39;t quite capture the malignant intent.</p>
<p>	Wow, I am seriously messed up about this thing.   Maybe I need some therapy.  I wonder if someone specializes in post paranormal traumatic stress disorder?   <img class="sfimageleft" />/tongue.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':blink:' /></p>
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	KK, when I had my scary middle of the night incidents (I decided for me that it was a brain function thing which was caused by stress and other personal factors at play rather than an actual evil presence) I experienced true terror.  I was so frightened that I couldn&#39;t move and felt held down and utterly powerless.  This was the most scared I have ever been, it was such an evil feeling presence that was so dark and truly horrifying.  I know our experiences are unique to ourselves but if your feelings of terror from this manta ray thing are anything like what I felt during my incidents then I think I understand a little about how scared you were.  I have NEVER felt so afraid in all my life, it was like the darkest, most empty and evil feeling thing that was looming over me.  I saw it with my own eyes and I hope it never happens again, it was very traumatic for me.  Anyhoo, you are not unhinged.  If the thing I experienced is even 1/10th as scary as what you did, there are not even words descriptive enough to do it justice.  I would bet that therapists actually have experience with folks dealing with paranormal trauma.  I don&#39;t think that is too far fetched at all&#33;</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 15:42:40 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>KuriusKat on bat or manta ray shaped shadow apparition</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it was the ghost of one of these bad boys that I saw.     <img class="sfimageleft" />/laugh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='<img class="spSmiley" src="http://www.paranormalunderground.net/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-laugh.gif" title="Laugh" alt="Laugh" />' />   It certainly seemed that big and ugly to me at the time. </p>
<p>	Thanks for the second picture Norcal, but it actually just reminded me of how tiny and scared I felt when I saw that thing.   I do appreciate the effort tho.</p>
<p>	I know I sound unhinged on this subject.  I just wish I could explain how horrible that thing was.   This image comes pretty close physically altho it doesn&#39;t quite capture the malignant intent.</p>
<p>	Wow, I am seriously messed up about this thing.   Maybe I need some therapy.  I wonder if someone specializes in post paranormal traumatic stress disorder?   <img class="sfimageleft" />/tongue.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':blink:' /></p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 03:15:03 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>MysticalKnight on bat or manta ray shaped shadow apparition</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><span style="color: #006400;"><span style="font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-family: Lucida Sans Unicode;"><em>I don&#39;t think it&#39;s shooped, I don&#39;t see the telltale stretches on the fringes of the pictures, but I&#39;ll snope it out....</em></span></span></span></p>
<p>	The manta ray (Manta birostris) is the largest species of the rays. <strong>The largest known specimen was more than 7.6 metres (25 ft) across, with a weight of about 2,300 kilograms (5,100 lb). </strong>It ranges throughout tropical waters of the world, typically around coral reefs. They have the largest brain-to-body ratio of the sharks, rays and skates (Elasmobranchii).</p>
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	WOW&#33; They DO get big&#33;</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 02:34:30 -0700</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Thank you SO much for that image.    <img class="sfimageleft" />/blink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':blink:' /> </p>
<p>	Since I probably won&#39;t sleep tonight thanks to this, I hope you are going to be online all night to keep me company.   Maybe someone can open the PUG Cantina because I could sure use a drink about now.  <img class="sfimageleft" />/laugh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='<img class="spSmiley" src="http://www.paranormalunderground.net/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-laugh.gif" title="Laugh" alt="Laugh" />' /></p>
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<p>	<span style="color: #006400;"><span style="font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-family: Lucida Sans Unicode;"><em>Perhaps this&#39;ll soothe your nerves...sorry KK, didn&#39;t mean to freak you out, my bad. your money is no good in the Cantina, you know that&#33;</em></span></span></span></p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 01:54:11 -0700</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Is that real? Do they get that big?  <img class="sfimageleft" />/ohmy.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':blink:' /></p>
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	<span style="color: #006400;"><span style="font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-family: Lucida Sans Unicode;"><em>I don&#39;t think it&#39;s shooped, I don&#39;t see the telltale stretches on the fringes of the pictures, but I&#39;ll snope it out....</em></span></span></span></p>
<p>	The manta ray (Manta birostris) is the largest species of the rays. <strong>The largest known specimen was more than 7.6 metres (25 ft) across, with a weight of about 2,300 kilograms (5,100 lb). </strong>It ranges throughout tropical waters of the world, typically around coral reefs. They have the largest brain-to-body ratio of the sharks, rays and skates (Elasmobranchii).</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 01:51:40 -0700</pubDate>
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<p>	saw this on the web....</p>
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	Thank you SO much for that image.    <img class="sfimageleft" />/blink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':blink:' /> </p>
<p>	Since I probably won&#39;t sleep tonight thanks to this, I hope you are going to be online all night to keep me company.   Maybe someone can open the PUG Cantina because I could sure use a drink about now.  <img class="sfimageleft" />/laugh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='<img class="spSmiley" src="http://www.paranormalunderground.net/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-laugh.gif" title="Laugh" alt="Laugh" />' /></p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 00:33:13 -0700</pubDate>
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<p>	saw this on the web....</p>
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	Is that real? Do they get that big?  <img class="sfimageleft" />/ohmy.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='B)' /></p>
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