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        	<title>pooperdooper on Monkey Suit or Sasquatch?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><span style="font-size: 13px;">Oh, I can understand the Holy Crap flight response when coming up on something like this. I don&#39;t mean the normal guy that catches something by mistake but there are a lot that claim to be hunting them that come up with footage. </span></p>
<p>	Now, most everyone I know that hunts anything, especially something with the capability of easily killing them, takes along a weapon capable of protecting themselves. That usually equates to a reasonable equalizer for anything they may run into.  I have seen many shows where there are people that will see things, hear things and even shoot randomly into the woods where they heard something but they never pursue. I am not even calling their actions into question, just disappointed I guess. Then again I am not on board with most everyone&#39;s bigfoot hunting techniques either.</p>
<p>	I guess I wouldn&#39;t be so critical if I wasn&#39;t so interested. </p>
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	    Your right, the amount of video that surfaces from &#34;Big Foot&#34; hunts is amazing. I would tend to want to interview Nat. Park Rangers with </p>
<p>	years of service, veteran smoke jumpers .............  . You&#39;d think if anyone could relate , at the very least sightings, it would be these people </p>
<p>	that spend their lives there. Also as I have mentioned in previous forum discussions sneaking up on an indigenous &#34;Bigfoot&#34; would be impossible </p>
<p>	for a myriad of different reasons. Provided of course that they actually exist. In that case we&#39;ll use the impossible word. LOL Since I am almost </p>
<p>	certainly getting transferred to Vancouver Wash. soon I think I may have too plan a few deep, deep wood treks just to see what I can see. You</p>
<p>	never know I may just get my first &#34;Dude Run&#34; event?</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 02:08:16 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>GhostBreakers on Monkey Suit or Sasquatch?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-size: 13px;">Oh, I can understand the Holy Crap flight response when coming up on something like this. I don&#39;t mean the normal guy that catches something by mistake but there are a lot that claim to be hunting them that come up with footage. </span></p>
<p>	Now, most everyone I know that hunts anything, especially something with the capability of easily killing them, takes along a weapon capable of protecting themselves. That usually equates to a reasonable equalizer for anything they may run into.  I have seen many shows where there are people that will see things, hear things and even shoot randomly into the woods where they heard something but they never pursue. I am not even calling their actions into question, just disappointed I guess. Then again I am not on board with most everyone&#39;s bigfoot hunting techniques either.</p>
<p>	I guess I wouldn&#39;t be so critical if I wasn&#39;t so interested. </p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 23:26:31 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>pooperdooper on Monkey Suit or Sasquatch?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><span style="font-size: 13px;">You got all that from that short video? I watched it 7 times and couldn&#39;t see what you did but I am getting old... lol I will take your word. </span></p>
<p>	The only thing I don&#39;t get about all the videos out there that have some type creature in it is,  why don&#39;t people follow them?  </p>
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	   Kim I would imagine the fear and suprise of the unknown would limit pursuit. As for the </p>
<p>	detail I just froze the begining frames and advanced the clip slowly. Not everyone who is hiking </p>
<p>	has had the privelege of learning to run forward, pursue, attack, defend and apprehend as the law </p>
<p>	enforcement professionals on here have. In some people it is a natural reaction to persue the mystery</p>
<p>	.........in others.........not so much. ( ref. &#34;Dude Run&#34; episode of GH )  <img class="sfimageleft" />/laugh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':angry:' /></p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 23:05:13 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>HeidiAnn67 on Monkey Suit or Sasquatch?</title>
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<p>	The only thing I don&#39;t get about all the videos out there that have some type creature in it is,  why don&#39;t people follow them?  </p>
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<p>	i dont think i&#39;d follow a chimp or a gorilla and im positive i wouldnt follow a big foot <img class="sfimageleft" />/laugh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='<img class="spSmiley" src="http://www.paranormalunderground.net/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-laugh.gif" title="Laugh" alt="Laugh" />' /></p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 22:57:14 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>GhostBreakers on Monkey Suit or Sasquatch?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Whoa Nelly &#33; Correct deep woods vegetation, correct great ape shoulder structure with a more upright</p>
<p>	posture. Cranium looks great ape. Pelvis with extended Cocyx would seem correct. That video is amazing Dover.</p>
<p>	Now that one makes me want to get to Washington State tomorrow. I would love to see the entire video</p>
<p>	file or tape in it&#39;s original form. There&#39;s alot of things on this video that are worth looking at in greater detail.</p>
<p>	All the above observations should be tempered by the fact that &#34;no one&#34; knows the correct body semetry of a </p>
<p>	Bigfoot/Sasquatch since there are no specimens to be studied.  <img class="sfimageleft" />/blink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':angry:' /></p>
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	<span style="font-size: 13px;">You got all that from that short video? I watched it 7 times and couldn&#39;t see what you did but I am getting old... lol I will take your word. </span></p>
<p>	The only thing I don&#39;t get about all the videos out there that have some type creature in it is,  why don&#39;t people follow them?  </p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 22:49:48 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>pooperdooper on Monkey Suit or Sasquatch?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Whoa Nelly &#33; Correct deep woods vegetation, correct great ape shoulder structure with a more upright</p>
<p>	posture. Cranium looks great ape. Pelvis with extended Cocyx would seem correct. That video is amazing Dover.</p>
<p>	Now that one makes me want to get to Washington State tomorrow. I would love to see the entire video</p>
<p>	file or tape in it&#39;s original form. There&#39;s alot of things on this video that are worth looking at in greater detail.</p>
<p>	All the above observations should be tempered by the fact that &#34;no one&#34; knows the correct body semetry of a </p>
<p>	Bigfoot/Sasquatch since there are no specimens to be studied.  <img class="sfimageleft" />/blink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='<img class="spSmiley" src="http://www.paranormalunderground.net/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-laugh.gif" title="Laugh" alt="Laugh" />' /></p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 22:27:32 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>ourobouros2k2 on Monkey Suit or Sasquatch?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Original clip matches the gait and pace of a man walking in a suit. Almost had a &#34;headbob&#34; as if listening to his ipod. Second clip was more convincing, and honestly don&#39;t know what to make of it. I have issues with anything I haven&#39;t personally recorded or that comes from a trusted source but suspending disbelief for sake of argument, it is rather interesting...</p>
<p>	Andy</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 21:55:18 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>HeidiAnn67 on Monkey Suit or Sasquatch?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>That 2nd one certainly looks like a real creature.</p>
<p>	Big Foot? who can tell. Young Gorilla, large Chimp? maybe </p>
<p>	wish there had been more to see.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 21:30:18 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>DoverDemon on Monkey Suit or Sasquatch?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Here are 2 more clips. One is really good but short of course and the other is an obvious fake. This kind of gives you a perspective on how much effort and cost would go into a well executed hoax.</p>
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<p>	<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zfssdYOPNM&#038;feature=related" target="_blank">Pseudo Bigfoot</a></p>
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<p>	<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERdW5IiWHGA" target="_blank">Real Bigfoot?</a></p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:49:46 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>pooperdooper on Monkey Suit or Sasquatch?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Aside from the uphill gait being humanlike. Why would a wilderness dwelling hominid use an obvious hiking trail to move away from </p>
<p>	a noise that had startled it. The fact that quality, irrefutable evidence of their existence is scarce leads me to believe that a Sasquatch</p>
<p>	on a worn trail would be even rarer. At the distance the hominid was from the noise I don&#39;t think it would have broken it&#39;s cover for a </p>
<p>	getaway. Just my opinion....it could be a Sasquatch. If they had been quieter they might have gotten close enough to ask him.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 18:03:46 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>HeidiAnn67 on Monkey Suit or Sasquatch?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>people will do really stupid things for their 15 minutes of fame</p>
<p>	balloon boy ring a bell? </p>
<p>	that first clip, they were so far away who can </p>
<p>	tell if it&#39;s a quality suit or a cheap rental.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 00:35:31 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>GhostBreakers on Monkey Suit or Sasquatch?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The main negative thing I have about a costume is, especially in a short clip like this, is the cost. You know the cost of making up a bigfoot costume of this quality would not be cheap and for 15 seconds on Youtube?  <img class="sfimageleft" />/blink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':P' />  It&#39;s not like they have ones of this quality for rent either. I am convinced there are the hairy hominids out there in the wild but other than thousands of sightings there is not much concrete proof.</p>
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	<span style="font-size: 13px;">You are probably right but I don&#39;t want to rule out some hollywood prop guys with access to one, making a short video for fun, just yet.</span></p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 00:07:25 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>DoverDemon on Monkey Suit or Sasquatch?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>The main negative thing I have about a costume is, especially in a short clip like this, is the cost. You know the cost of making up a bigfoot costume of this quality would not be cheap and for 15 seconds on Youtube?  <img class="sfimageleft" />/blink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':P' />  It&#39;s not like they have ones of this quality for rent either. I am convinced there are the hairy hominids out there in the wild but other than thousands of sightings there is not much concrete proof.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 23:54:21 -0800</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Here is a short clip of a supposed Sasquatch in California. It is one of the better clips. If a costume it was well designed and the person underneath has a lot of size to fit it nicely. Hard to tell but more realistic than most except maybe the Harley Hoffman clip.</p>
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<p>	<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZA_LR-AYnY&#038;feature=related" target="_blank">California Sasquatch</a></p>
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<p>	Pretty clear clip but as with all so far I don&#39;t have a problem with what they look like as much as content. This one was obviously close enough to get video. Why didn&#39;t they pursue? Also most that I see look like people walking , running or just strolling along. I haven&#39;t seen a modern primate walk that well and if it is a branch of Gigantopithecus I wouldn&#39;t think it would stride so easily because of its size. </p>
<p>	Now that I let my skepticism show. I have to admit that I am intrigued by the idea of a Bigfoot and believe that it is possible for a large primate to go unnoticed. Especially in such a large area as the Northwest. Heck, only a couple years ago they found 125,000 gorillas living in a swampy area of Africa that they thought long gone.</p>
<p>	However, unless we get one or a real good close up we will never know. I guess my main problem is that I am sure someone could make a real looking bigfoot costume. Heck this was a costume and if I saw him running through the woods I would believe it was real.  </p>
<p>	<a href="javascript:void(null)" class="vtip" title="Click image to enlarge" onclick="spjPopupImage('http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg273/GhostBreakers/League1.jpg', '692', '720', '1');" ><img src="http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg273/GhostBreakers/League1.jpg" width="100"  class="sfimageleft" alt="" /><img src="http://www.paranormalunderground.net/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-themes/css-only-paranormal/images/sp_Mouse.png" class="sfimageleft sfmouseleft" alt="" /></a></p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 23:20:37 -0800</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Here is a short clip of a supposed Sasquatch in California. It is one of the better clips. If a costume it was well designed and the person underneath has a lot of size to fit it nicely. Hard to tell but more realistic than most except maybe the Harley Hoffman clip.</p>
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<p>	<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZA_LR-AYnY&#038;feature=related" target="_blank">California Sasquatch</a></p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 21:32:41 -0800</pubDate>
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