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Proof Positive

by Karen Frazier, Managing Editor
Paranormal Underground Magazine

I recently heard someone on a paranormal television show call some piece of evidence “proof positive of paranormal activity.”

“How could that be?” I wondered, “Proof positive?”

Is there such thing as proof positive of paranormal activity? Here’s where I stand. There are things that have happened to me that I personally feel as if they meet my own personal preponderance of evidence to be paranormal. Was it beyond reasonable doubt? Nah. There’s almost always reasonable doubt where the paranormal comes into play. Would another person feel that my experiences showed a preponderance of evidence? Not necessarily – it depends on the person.

For every “fact” that I could lay out as “evidence” of the paranormal, many of my very scientifically and logically-minded friends could offer up alternative explanations. That’s just how it is in the paranormal, and I’ve been on both sides of the argument. I’ve been the one offering up alternative explanations. I’ve also been the one saying, “No – I know what it was. I know what I experienced.” If I was a politician, I’d be labeled a flip flopper.

What it all comes back to – at least for me – is the subtlety and ambiguity of paranormal experiences. I know of very few paranormal experiences that are of the slap you in the face, 100% no other logical explanation available variety. And even if they are of that variety (and there have been a few), I personally have never then come back with hard evidence that says for certain that my anomalous experience was paranormal.

Sure, sure. I have EVPs. I have a few photographs. I have some interesting anomalous black masses on video. And of course, I’ve got orbs up the wazoo. But let’s be real. Orbs are very likely dust. Or bugs. Or rain drops. Or light artifacts. Black masses on video could be IR shadows. We don’t really know what EVPs are. Sure they could be the voices of the dead – but are they really? I’ve heard all sorts of explanations for EVPs that make as much – if not more – sense than that they are ghost voices.

True skepticism demands that we are always open-minded when dealing with evidence. And in my opinion, open-minded works two ways. Keeping your mind open to the possibility that it is paranormal, and keeping your mind open to the possibility that it isn’t.

Many of you know that for a long, long time I was the biggest paranormal agnostic out there. I was waiting for that definitive experience that made me say, “Oh yep – there’s definitely something going on.” And so, for a long time, my answer when asked if I believed in ghosts was a big, fat, “I don’t know.”

Then I had that experience. It’s floating around in these blogs somewhere. I am sure that many wouldn’t consider it a smack you in the face kind of experience. It was actually quite subtle – or at least a series of quite subtle events. Each event was wrapped up in ambiguity with alternate explanations galore. In the end, what it came down to for me was a gut check. My gut told me something and I listened. I find that I usually can’t go wrong when I listen to my gut in such a way. That experience was followed by others – all in the same place. And to me, I felt as if I had discovered an answer to a question I’d had forever. I had my proof positive – even though I understand that many would never view my series of experiences as proof positive for themselves. I’m okay with that.

So where does that leave me? Am I a believer now? Well – yes and no. I believe that my encounters with the unknown were encounters with ghosts. But that doesn’t necessarily mean that I believe that everything unexplainable is a brush with the paranormal. I see myself as still an open-minded skeptic – evaluating each experience on a case-by-case basis.

I am a contradiction. I have a logical and scientific bent; however, I am also highly intuitive and rely on my gut to tell me the truth of things. Throughout my life, this has served me quite well. But it also means that there is almost always a war going on inside of me. My head fights with my gut on a regular basis. My logic and my intuition don’t always agree with one another. In fact, they almost never do. What it leads to quite often is a “hey – this is TOTALLY real,” in the moment, followed by, “Oh come on – there are all kinds of logical explanations,” after the fact.

In the end, this may be why the paranormal holds such fascination for me. Because it is an exercise of my logic and my intuition both. It leads me to continually seek in hopes of finding something that satisfies both my logical mind and my intuitive gut. When that happens, I can promise you this. You’ll be the first to know.

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Comments (5)
  1. CSPI Wanda / Reply January 5, 2010 at 12:31 pm

    Thank You for writing this….I too have had similar experiences and I try to explain to EVERYONE there are no experts in the field of Paranormal ..only people who can speculate. NO-ONE will know what is truly real , and what can be fabricated until there is SOLID proof , we will ALWAYS go back and forth…I too KNOW what I have felt and have seen or Heard…but Personal experiences DO NOT constitute paranormal..it is only that PERSONAL…I agree about Orbs…I have the same mentality when it comes to them…some others dont share that with me…but as you said you HAVE to be logical when it comes to them , and it only makes sense that it is dust or mist or bugs of some sort. I have personally been channeled by spirits on a couple of occasions , and I have to say although not a BAD experience but it was certanly NOT pleasant by any means…the only way I can explain it is as follows….it feels like something is draining the very life from you…you feel like electricity is going through your body , kind of like being shocked but a constant shock…if you have never experienced it, I pray you dont…when its over you feel like you cannot move…It took EVERYTHING I had to get up and be moved to a safer location where I collapsed into a chair and could NOT move for almost 30 minutes or more…I have had people to say …yeah yeah sure sure…I say to them UNLESS you experience it (and I pray you dont) dont Judge others! because to us it IS real…..

  2. CSPI Wanda / Reply January 5, 2010 at 12:50 pm

    I also need to add…after the first Channeling..I was an emotional wreck for the first hour and several days after ..with the second experience it wasnt so bad…I kind of new what too expect…I am more of a believer since then…and I have more of a quest now to let everyone know that the Paranormal DOES exist….

  3. Karen Frazier / Reply January 5, 2010 at 12:57 pm

    Hi Wanda:

    Thanks for sharing your experience. I don’t think I’ve ever channeled as you describe it. I know that when I go to haunted places, the ghosts there usually seem to really like me. It’s almost as if I am a ghost magnet. When I spend several hours at a haunted location where the ghosts are drawn to me, I wind up exhausted. Exhausted to the point that I drive away from the location with a “never again” attitude. It usually takes me a few days to be ready to get back on the horse, but so far I always have. Haunted locations wear me out – but I love them all the same because when I do encounter something, I want to get to know it. I want to connect with it just as I would connect with a living, breathing human being.

    My goals for the paranormal are a bit different than many other people. I don’t want to prove the paranormal. I want to get to know the ghosts just like I would get to know living, breathing people. I have an affinity for souls – which could explain why I have four dogs. If there are ghosts, I want them to know that they are not forgotten and that someone cares about them. That is my goal.

  4. CSPI Wanda / Reply January 5, 2010 at 7:43 pm

    Hi Karen,
    Let me retract the word PROVE I guess I actually meant to Discover and Share…I know I have had personal experiences, heard voices, been touched, channelled. but the cru de gra for me is to actually catch an entity on film. But only to use as a tool to educate people who have doubts & questions about the Paranormal.

    Speaking of dogs…I have a Black Lab who is VERY sensitive to spirits..I knew we had “visitors” in our home but didnt realize how active our home was until we got our dog…when he was a puppy he used to sit in the Livingroom and stare into the Kitchen…we often wondered what he was staring at…until one evening…we were all sitting in the livingroom watching Jeopardy, Thunder (our Dog) suddenly rose and bared his teeth and the fur on the back of his neck rose…he began growling…from where I was sitting I could look directly into the Kitchen….and there it was..the figure of a woman pacing between the sink and the stove….I stood up and as I did she disappeared. This happened several more times that night and each time I arose she disappeared, I had my camcorder within reach and everytime I reached for it of course you know what happened….yep you guessed it, she disappeared…LOL. upon doing some research on the property and finding who the original owners were, I did more research and I found out the woman and man who owned the property before both died in the home…the woman was preparing Dinner when she dropped dead from a heart attack, the man died in his sleep. I knew when we first saw this home it was active, from day one when I walked in (im sensitive) I told my Husband it was and I wanted to buy it, the activity has increased more in the past 2 years due to remodeling our home…the funny thing is whomever is here LOVES my Mickey Mouse collection, I find them moved around quite often. In recent months I have put the Mickey collection away and have replaced them with Lighthouses. Well I dont think they like the light houses I find them toppled over and some actually moved from one place to another…I just chuckle softly and mumble please stop moving these, I move them to where I want them….to no avail they simply get moved again…sorry for going off an a tangent, I just love sharing my experiences with people. My hope is for one day to actually come face to face with an entity, I have to admit I really dont know how I will react.

  5. CSPI Wanda / Reply January 5, 2010 at 7:52 pm

    Karen,
    I wanted to also say, the woman I co/founded the Group with is Psychic… when Im around her my senses are heightened. I know EXACTLY how you feel when you say you are EXHAUSTED. Everytime we do an Investigation together we feed off each other and we are BOTH exhausted by the end of the night, and I know what you mean by taking a few days to recover. Its not a bad feeling though I enjoy it, EVERY aspect of it. although being a sensitive/empath can have its drawbacks too, I sometimes also feel the emotions of the Investigators and that can be exhausting in itself. But I LOVE what I do so it makes me push myself even more, to quench that thirst for more Knowledge about the Paranormal.




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