Extreme Paranormal
by Karen Frazier, Managing Editor
Paranormal Underground Magazine
I came across an ad for a television special called Extreme Paranormal, which will be airing on A&E next Monday night. It is another in a chain of extreme ghost hunting shows and documentaries that focus on the darker, more aggressive side of ghost hunting. Is this the new face of ghost hunting – aggressive and provocative with demonic forces around every corner?
Is extreme ghost hunting entertaining to watch? Absolutely. It seems that many in the “paratainment” industry are jumping on a trend that started with the original Ghost Adventures documentary. And understandably so – Ghost Adventures quickly became an extremely popular and highly watched paranormal franchise. Is extreme ghost hunting representative of the field or the experience? Not necessarily.
I know and communicate with a number of paranormal investigators on a regular basis. Of all of the people I’ve spoken and worked with over the past few years (paranormal television personalities excluded), I’ve only once ever heard of an extreme type of case where demonic forces were suspected and a more aggressive approach was required.
Are these extreme shows misrepresenting the field, or are they actually representative of a large portion of cases? And if they aren’t representative of what is actually going on in paranormal investigation today, does it matter? Should they be considered pure entertainment?
Many investigators I have spoken with feel that it does, indeed, matter. They feel that shows that feature extreme ghost hunting are contributing to the rise in new guerilla ghost hunting groups that flaunt trespassing laws, disrespect people, properties and spirits and affect the public’s view of paranormal investigators.
Recently, in a podcast interview, Ghost Adventure’s Nick Groff told us how the Goldfield Hotel was no longer open to investigation because of the influx of people attempting to investigate the location made famous by the Ghost Adventures documentary.
According to Groff, “It’s extremely hard to get permission to do anything there. I heard there’s a lot of break-ins, which is kind of sad. It kind of put a damper on things. It makes it difficult for us to try and get permission to go in, because they are already mad about people breaking in. It’s a challenge sometimes.”
The Ghost Adventures Crew’s problem is the same one that many groups are now experiencing as a result of the glut of guerilla ghost hunting. Groups are experiencing more and more difficulty being allowed into locations due to the fact that so many groups behave irresponsibly – possibly because they are imitating what they see on television.
Perhaps this is where the difference between ghost hunter and paranormal investigator begins. There are a number of respectful and responsible groups in the field who attempt to use sound methodologies, conduct responsible and respectful investigations and who genuinely care about learning the truth.
Is extreme ghost hunting, as represented in the media, giving rise to imitators, or should people be credited with more intelligence than to merely copy what they see on television? How do you investigate, and how does it work for you? Do extreme ghost hunting shows help or hurt the field as a whole?
Come join us in our forum, and tell us what you think of the influx of extreme ghost hunting shows and how they are affecting your ability to work in your chosen field.
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I believe this style of show gets under the skin of anyone who gives the practice of paranormal investigation more than just a passing glance. This latest preview for extreme paranormal depicts use of the infamous K2 meter, but as if the pretty lights were not enough, they dubbed in sonar beeps and geiger counter crackling to make the instrument seem more scientific. This is likely the way they approach the entire show, and as such, classifying it as a legitimate show depicting paranormal research is a stretch. I think it also damages legitimate investigators when the potential clients see these TV antics. They might be less willing to wade through a sea of acronyms in an attempt to find a group that will not behave like the ones on tv.
I guess we will just have to watch the trend.
Andy
I am Debbie Perkins,
Director of {Maine Extreme Paranormal & Teen Extreme Ghost Hunters Club} personally, to me what is going on is rediculious! and should not be happening with the extremest’s. We are dedicated to helping teach people who want our service’s only and we take this very seriously. we want to make documentery,Of Teen Extreme GHC to show people we teach more then just to take a camera and poof ur now an investergater? Seriously folks any investergater knows it work! No its dosnt work that way, and that is wrong thinking!
Teen X, will be new this summer only in Maine to start. We work exclusively with Kids and familys, who would normally be hunting due to those stupid dangerious shows that these kids have been watching. They do break in to places just to get evidence. To be a paranormal investergater, you need to realize there is more to hunting then what you think starting out.It can be real hard work. there is history to learn, there is how to obtain permissions,there is hours and hours of evidence to examine some cases. loging classes. Evp classes, photo classes, evidence review classes,and safty Classes!
alot of safty issues with any and all cases! To Just tape kids in danger is insaine and desperatly wrong.I saw some kids on a show that were alone going into a building with equipment, no partner nothing. These kids may be now tramatized?!!
I hope to bring a diffrent kind of spin on these types of shows, because paranormal investergating is not a joke! We who do represent the paranormal community, we take our work as very serious bussiness! There should be safty net’s in place, if there are any what are they? I dont see how thy can just play ghost hunter,To no formal training into a location of severty and let them just go for it? What will they do if one of thoses kids brings an attatchment home? are they hunting in the dark? alone? with just a camera guy? that is crazy! I seen many episodes of GHI and Taps Paranormal State,and some of them were very frightening! to lots of people, I know! I might dare go on investergations such as these sometime in my adult group, but I am prepaired for the situations being an adult, and I have years of expernces I can control my self, and I will not ever put an inexperenced person, in this situation, ever! I am very faith full! I fully put my entire trust and love in the OX LORD Jesus Christ as my saviour!!
We all know that kids are vunerable to do what is cool. Really Guys take it from me!! its not cool, to be hurt ever in a paranormal situation ever! Or by being under bad councel, and to just go into a location and just hunt? There truly needs to be structure! Safty nets in place! What happens to these kids after the show ends? Who is there councel? Are they going to be alright? Who fallows up with the kids/Adults? Will they be tramatic for them and will they need mental help? Will they have a respecitable group to join? Will they get proper training prior to going into situations? By whom will they be trained? What happens to the location’s after? Will they be broken into by more kids/ desperate adults looking for that high of danger? Well My solution is for my area to teach the kids first, and for most. Yes, to Protect them!! Make sure there 100%safe! Alow the public to see they are totally safe! Having teenagers I know that all kids have total intrest in danger. So does some adults. 2 women were killed from falling while intoxicated at t university they were investergating, the fell to there deaths. doing an investergation, intoxicated! Kids are natural dare devils! Fearless to danger! and Signs! I need you to know its these kind of shows, adult or children are intrested in and this is why I decided to teach teen’s in a safe manor with people who honestly and truly do care for kids and care about the Club. Take the time to listen to Teen Extreme Ghost Hunters Club> interview with Shawn Sellers,Jake Bell and Michelle Fox on “Down at the Crossroads”. I was a bit nervious. Shawn is an extreme Paranormal investergater pschic sencitive. He has a wonderful team of professionals. Being a Professional and faithfull in the lord, they have offered there advice and help as well as meny other teams and popular groups of paranormal. Even to have extremest, help kids with lectures and such.But I feel that extreamest a are rare but they are needed to Investergate places that the normal investergaters can not do. This I agree Not put anyone that isnt mentally able to handle this as adults, to subject Kids to places of Danger?..or to apease these ideas is ludiricris! Just think about what you are doing prior to doing it. For kids/Adults that want to hunt find a safe group that will help you learn correctly! Dont just do it!! you could be hurt seriously, or worse! Just to make a show! who will send you cards in hospital?
I dought that any network will cover for your injuries and mental expences?..Take it from me, if you want to learn paranormal keep your dreams alive but be safe for you and others around you, but do it with a trusted and stable founded group, before you go it alone!! Be safe and God Bless eveyone!! Thank you for reading this just my opinions~DJCP~
I am not a fan of these type shows but do watch so I may have an educated opinion on them. For me they are pure entertainment since a lot isn’t a true representation of what really goes on anyway.
I believe each show is a little more extreme than the last for entertainment purposes. There is nothing wrong with that. No one believes that Freddy Kruger or Michael Myers is real and I think the majority will see and enjoy these shows for what they are.
I suppose there could be a downside too. A lot of people believe that if they see it on TV it must be true. It’s the Monkey see Monkey do attitude of the naive who believe these shows are the real standard of the community and will mimic them in the field. This could sour people’s opinions of good groups. I guess we may just have to do damage prevention so we don’t have to do damage control.
However, I do not see any real influence on the serious side of the community. My thought is that no harm will come to the communities good groups unless they take the others seriously. The only drawback might be that the naïve will compare all real groups to the TV groups but most already do.
Oh well, no one is beating down my door for an interview. (sniff) LOL Maybe I should start throwing orb photos around or putting words to the garbles noises I can get on my recorder. The truth is you don’t hear of the more serious groups because they are too busy researching the paranormal while the others are researching how to be the next TV show. Then again, does the majority even what the truth? Maybe all they want is the sensational…
While I am far from a real paranormal investigator, the investigations I have been in on resemble these shows about as much as a 12-hour police stakeout resembles Magnum PI.
Shows like Extreme Paranormal have the very real potential to cause undue pain for the survivors, relatives, and descendants of victims of violent death, and for what? So the average hypnotized and dummied down TV viewer can get their rocks off?
I’d guess authentic paranormal researchers and explorers were nauseated.
I am a direct descendant of the victims of the Bonito Lake New Mexico tragedy featured on the October 19 Extreme Paranormal show.
First of all, my ancestors have spilled more than enough blood already. You know, like REAL blood?? That their tragedy is being exploited for sensationalized reality TV is stupid, disrespectful and wrong.
When anything horrible happens anywhere: ghost stories spring up. Does that make any of these “ghost” stories true? I doubt anybody involved with Extreme Paranormnal has a clue…
The show’s chubby cheeked boy hosts have obviously never had any authentic contact with negative entities from the other side, cause if they had, the last thing they’d be doing now is trying to fool around with the ghosts of mass murderers. They would have already learned their lesson.
In the first segment, one guy cuts himself so his blood would help summon spirits of tortured dead people – and another uses a saw to cut through jail cell bars to harrass one of these poor souls? They ought to be ashamed and embarrassed.
And, this trend of increasingly disrespectful and aggressive paranormal shows is contributing to fast growing numbers of dumbshit copycat kids going out there causing property damage at supposedly haunted sites and invading cemeteries all over the U.S.A.
Lovely.
Incidently, when the “Extreme Paranormal” researchers contacted our family, they were dishonest, hiding the fact that they were out to taunt the killer, “…daring demons to attack” and all that macho childish crap. When my relative tried to straighten the researchers out on the actual facts, it soon became apparent that the show wasn’t likely to allow the truth to get their way.
Indeed, the show ignored the facts and entirely lacked any meaningful quality control pertaining to the truth. The show was well aware that the buildings were torn down before the lake was created. Yet they say how the lake covers the old city. It was never a “city”, just a small gathering of a few cabins, tavern, a post office, a hotel and a school. The western picture they showed at the beginning of the segment was not of Bonito City. And, Martin Nelson lived longterm at the hotel/boarding house, he was not a “drifter who roamed the streets” randomly killing people like the show said. My relative told the show’s researchers these facts, but the show chose to ignore them. The only thing that the show got right was the date of the tragedy.
There have been Christian ceremonies and funerals for the victims, and no “trapped souls” exist beneath this beautiful lake. My ancestors are just fine, and are held in the hands of God. My relatives have recently spent time at the lake, at night, and have nothing paranormal to report. The show knew full well that there is no actual basis for any stories of hauntings either, the show’s crew just scouted around until they found someone who would say what they wanted them to say.
Bonito Lake is a very popular fishing spot, and many people come to enjoy the campgrounds on the lake, where picnicking certainly occurs…and folks from the area don’t appreciated how the show made the area out to be this remote, dank, dark and spooky place. The show was very unfair to the residents of the area. There is no basis to any ghost stories at Bonito Lake. None of the longterm residents and fishermen who’ve lived or now live near Bonito Lake have reported any paranormal activity.
The factual story about the Bonito City tragedy is being written by my relative, and will appear in the world in about 6 months.
So some bullshit super fictionalized story went out into the world, and for what? To feed gullible goofballs with too much time on their hands their daily dose of hype that now replaces meaningful interaction with actual people in the actual world?
Again, there’s enough over-sensationalized lies in our world, I challenge folks to try to live in light and truth.
Maine Extreme Paranormal thinks she’s got personal claim on the use of the word “extreme”. She has little experiance herself to be lecturing others about it. And she’s full of shit about protecting teens from drugs when she smokes weed with them. Thats why I left her group, she’s bad news.
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